Talk:Wu-haltai language

I cannot work out what's wrong with the references tags on this page. It's the same code that's worked for me on every other page. Help! — BadCatMan (talk) 12:44, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Fixed. No worries, it happens to all of us. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:23, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I must have scanned this a dozen times and still missed that bracket. Thanks Moviesign. — BadCatMan (talk) 13:24, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Oni Language
I think the language of the oni is distinct from Jotun, at least for the oni of the east, as opposed to the oni of the west. Monstrous Compendium Kara-Tur Appendix seems to indicate such. 3e sources Oriental Adventures and Monster Manual v.3.5 simply say Giant, yes, but the former is not an FR source and the latter is focused on the western variety of oni. Just something to consider. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:32, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I did wonder about this, but plumped for Giant, as I didn't know if a source would give a distinct oni language. Oddly for a Kara-Tur source, Ronin Challenge specifically mentions "ogre magi", and later lists "giants, oni, ogres, ogre magi" to suggest it treats them separately. Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms also seems to treat oni and ogre magi separately. For the Northern Wastes/Ama Basin area, it says "the ogres of the region (and most of Kara-Tur) communicate in the tongue of ogre magi." So, not oni then. I feel Giant is still the most appropriate language.


 * Oni and ogre magi will be worse than kenku and tengu to separate and distinguish, I think. — BadCatMan (talk) 00:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmm, full quote for context: "It is worth noting that, although similar to those spoken in the west, the languages of oriental hobgoblins and hill giants are separate dialects, and the ogres of the region (and most of Kara-Tur) communicate in the tongue of ogre magi." — BadCatMan (talk) 00:42, May 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, Monstrous Compendium Kara-Tur Appendix says this:
 * The common oni stands 7 to 8 feet tall, resembling a thickly-muscled humanoid whose arms and legs are covered with coarse hair.&hellip; Their skin is normally red, but other colors have been noted, including green, black, orange, and purple. Blue-skinned oni also exist, but these are more commonly known as ogre magi, because they have as much in common with the western ogre as they do they with eastern oni."
 * So it seems that the "ogre mage" is primarily just a blue-skinned common oni. Oriental Adventures 3e says, "The ogre mage described in the Monster Manual is in fact a variety of oni." ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:20, May 2, 2016 (UTC)