Talk:Elven dualist

Why "prestige class"?
Why is the Elven Dualist in the category of "prestige classes"? It was a 2nd Edition "base class"; a new type of specialist wizard. Prestige Classes are a 3rd Edition creation. Just curious. Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 02:35, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Spirits, I just gave it prestige class... if you want to change it or ask someone else... cool... but a wizard has to be a specific level to be one... not 1st level and it is 2nd edition... so... anyone have any ideas? Still cool page, Spirits Actually, I just read the page... it appears the level advancement it not the starting level for the dualist, but an add on for elven wizards... okay, I'll fix... undo if someone disagrees :) Darkwynters (talk) 06:56, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I didn't change it because I did not know if there was a 3.x version somewhere. It's basically a form of specialist wizard that starts at 1st level. Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 13:44, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Darn; for some dumb reason (probably me) I can't seem to be able to link this page to Wizards by school (http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Wizards_by_school), which is perfect for the dualist class. Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 14:10, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Links to categories work like this: Wizards by school. Put a colon before the category or otherwise it marks the page as being in that category.&mdash;Moviesign (talk) 14:40, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I guess I didn't read this closely enough. I thought DW said this was a prestige class, but he was just guessing. I'll get rid of the (3e) version in the categories. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 15:36, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Crunchy Bits
In order to avoid the “no crunch” policy, I’m placing this section in the Talk page and not the main article.

Adding the class to 3rd Edition is disturbingly easy without losing any flavour from the 2nd Edition original and keeping fully in the rules of 3.x: Treat the dualist as a Specialist Wizard with two specializations (i.e. +2 on spellcraft checks in the two chosen schools and two extra spell slots per spell level; one for a spell of each of the two schools); in order to gain this specialization, the Dualist gives up access to FIVE other schools; since Divination cannot be a prohibited school, this means that a dualist will always have [specialization I], [specialization II], Divination and Universal. Dijakkar (Div + Conj) may select any one of the other schools in compensation (Abjuration is highly recommended for its synergy with calling conjurations). Combining other pairs of schools is NOT recommended.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled fluff… Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 22:52, July 22, 2012 (UTC)