Talk:The Shining South (1993)

The Realms year for this book is given with 1358 DR, but I cannot find it on p. 8. Can anyone help me here? Is it based indirectly on something mentioned there? Daranios (talk) 20:45, September 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * Damn, I based all my Ulgarth work on that date, but there doesn't seem to be a current date anywhere in the book.
 * Yenandra is the current queen of Dambrath, after reigning 71 years, but The Grand History of the Realms says she died in 1356 DR, after ruling for 81 years. That implies The Shining South is set in 1346 DR. But early dates for the queens of Dambrath are highly dubious. That doesn't work.
 * Ah, the book does mention the Time of Troubles and its aftermath, so it's definitely after, so 1358 DR or later. That's what the page 8 reference uses. Page 60 refers to the defeat of the Tuigan Horde, which was in 1360 DR. It also has Durpari ships return from Maztica "three years ago"; so 1364 DR or later. Except Grand History places this, amazingly, in 1370 DR, so the book could be as late as 1373 DR and way beyond where the setting could be.
 * So The Shining South and its dates and events have been largely retconned by later sources, so it's hard to date the book based on those. I think the best approach would be to look at other sourcebooks published in 1993, as close to April as possible, and see if they provide a solid date. How does that sound? — BadCatMan (talk) 11:34, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmm, confusion, confusion. I cannot really find months for all sourcebooks from 1993, but most, and especially the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 2nd edition, are dated to 1367 DR. So should we assume that? (Sorry about the effect on Ulgarth then.) Daranios (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I seem to have forgotten to respond here. But yes, most sourcebooks are circa 1367 DR, so I agree with that. At some point, I'll update the dates in pages referencing this book. I think I'll use the bot. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:52, November 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * And done. I used the bot to check all the pages citing The Shining South and updated 1358 dates to 1367. Apparently I was almost the only person working off the wrong date. :( — BadCatMan (talk) 06:27, November 20, 2016 (UTC)