Category talk:Half-Eladrin

This category concerns me. Araevin Teshurr is a half celestial sun elf, sired by a 3e Eladrin. 4e eladrin are fey, not celestials. He can't be half-fey because sun elves, as eladrin themselves are now fey, but on the other hand celestial eladrin seem to no longer exist. Debate? Ideas? hashtalk 22:18, 2 October, 2008 (GMT)
 * My understanding, and granted my understanding is limited and I may be wrong, is that 3e eladrin are one of two things. Either they weren't really eladrin (see 4e's definition of an angel - it basically means any non-archon celestial) or that they were but they weren't really celestials (i.e., they were were the "noble" eladrin, which are fey humanoids and the same race as moon elves and sun elves).


 * The word "half-eladrin" was something I admittedly devised. However, it's clear to me that since elves and eladrin are different races that half-eladrin and half-elves probably are as well. The Player's Handbook seems to certainly indicate this and the fact that most "half-elves" are "half-eladrin" can be chalked up to the same human generalizations that determine eladrin to be elves (after all - elves call half-elves "half-humans").


 * Unfortunately, the only way we're going to arrive at an answer here is through consensus. My belief is that WOTC's intention is that 3e eladrin are the same thing as 4e eladrin and it was simply a case of mistaken identity that they were actually celestials. I have, however, little way of proving this if any, with the strongest evidence being the fact that sun elves and moon elves are said in the 4e material to have "reclaimed" their eladrin name.


 * Agreement? Counterarguments? Niirfa-sa 23:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)