Talk:Corellon

Will there be an addition about Corellon Larethian taking over the portfolio of Ellistrae and Vhareum? SieteRayos 15:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Juan
 * If you can source it, then sure. I'd also like to say that this article is a prime example of what we should be doing with our images. hashtalk 16:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Well the question would have to refer to the books themselves. The hint was given in the Ascendancy of the Last (Lady Penitent) Lisa Smedman (Author). That is just a hint though. Is there anymore information? #


 * Corellon never took their portfolio. His portfolio has always stayed the same. All he did was allowing a bunch of Eilistraee's followers into Arvandor (not even all of them), he didn't even get involved in any clash with Lolth during the 4e era. In the 5e era, Eilistraee and Vhaeraun hold their portfolios once again.--Tsammarco (talk) 04:54, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Corellon isn't Unaligned in 4e FR. He's Good. The Corellon of Core is a somewhat similar but unrelated god.

> Gender: Male ... I'm not entirely sure that's correct


 * It isn't. Especially as of 5e--Tsammarco (talk) 04:54, August 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * It is not. Corellon is a gender-neutral deity referred to as both or neither depending on context and the preference of the elf worshipping Corellon. Corellon is mostly referred to as male, but Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes dismisses this (though it does so for all gods in general); other sources about Corellon speak of their gender-neutral nature as well from time to time.MadHatter-Himself (talk) 12:10, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Gender
I reverted the change of gendered pronouns because, first, the edit introduced nowiki tags that broke the code; second, it retconned past information that used masculine gender; and third, the excessive use of "their" and "they" made it very ambiguous who was being referred to in events. This requires a much more nuanced and careful handling. Finally, the justification for the change is unsourced.

First, which source actually uses "their"/"they" pronouns for Corellon? Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes uses "his". — BadCatMan (talk) 00:52, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

As well as being ungrammatical and nonsensical. Corellion is a single individual, not multiple people. This is an encyclopedia, not Twitter, and should use correct grammar. – 98.149.110.214


 * Your first sentence is incomplete. In the second you misspelled "Corellon". In the third, who should use correct grammar: me or you? Now, I know the singular pronoun "they" is awkward and a comparatively new usage – only about seven hundred years old in English – but it is well-understood and commonplace. By the way, please sign off with four tildes (~). — BadCatMan (talk) 06:33, September 23, 2020 (UTC)

Misrepresentation of a quoted source under Gruumsh
In the section about Gruumsh, it says: "Their blood seemed to be compatible to each other for mingling it created elves and also the Elf-Eater." However, that's not what the listed sources say. The first source says that elves were created by Corellon's spilled blood, while only the second refers to mingling of Corellon's and Gruumsh's blood creating the Elf Eater abomination. Unless another source can be provided, the article should be changed to reflect this distinction. ZraveX (talk) 06:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for investigating and correcting this. The original text seemed to conflate a story about elves being created from Corellon's blood and Sehanine's tears with that of Gruumsh's blood and the Elf-Eater. I've added this now. BadCatMan (talk) 05:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Missing link
In the description section, "Araushnee" should be linked to https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Lolth#Dawn_Age I'd just do it, but it's edit locked.
 * I added Araushnee link. Thanks for pointing it out. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Phonetic Transcription
I don't know whether it's meant to represent a supposedly elvish pronunciation or an English one, and that's why I'm hesitant to make the edit straight away, but the phonological transcription of the name seemed off to me, even though I'm not used to hear it said by other people. I doubt it's elvish because I've yet to come across a source where WotC comments on actual linguistic aspects of the languages, especially going as deep as phonetics, but, also, I can't really rule it out. My guess is it's supposed to be English, but that transcription isn't accurate —not very Englishlike— to me.

Based on audio examples extracted online, I'd suggest the following transcription: /ˈkɒrəlɒn læˈrɛθiən/.

See: https://youtu.be/ZRqLjm9fKEY?t=57 and https://youtu.be/8INW9OG12Jo?t=27 and https://youtu.be/nYsB_sVB1ds?t=26

Although some others seem to accentuate the first part of the name on the second syllable, rendering the alternative /kɒˈrəlɒn læˈrɛθiən/.

See: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K5fDsvD1KjA


 * Hi. I don't know exactly what issue you're getting at, but that is the correct and canon phonetic pronunciation from Dragon #93, and the only one we're aware of. Fans may come up with their own pronunciations, naturally, but that doesn't make this one wrong, nor them right. ~ BadCatMan (talk) 07:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)