User talk:Darkwynters

Dude, you know...
Next time you want to edit a page fine but watch what the hell your editing and use the damn preview button before you publish and yes the revsions i did were spiteful, but reasonbly so. Please you not to new to this so use the preview button you can always change things later. But there is no need to do an exceedingly large amount of info put back in, undo your edit, just undo the previous edit you did and then redo the 'fix'. Be more careful my friend. Pharuan Undearth 23:54, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Verbeeg!
Haha Thank you ^^! Its nice that you liked them ^^! If i find any other verbeeg images i can find in other TFR games i will add them ^^! (Witch is something i would like to do with all the characters and creatures). I have never read The Crystal Shard, Would you recommend it? (To some one who as only played the games) :)! Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  22:23, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion!
Hay! I was just wondering how do i mark something for deletion? like http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Oosik witch has nothing to do with any thing :S! Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  15:08, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Blades,

Check out the Oosik page, open edit, and just copy my Deletion... I don't want to write it here, because the box will show on my page :) GOOD FIND!!! Darkwynters 16:47, October 5, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Really thats it :D? Thanks ^^! Haha thanks! Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  20:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Banning
Ok, now what about banning? Like this vandal: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/137.205.13.203 ? Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  00:28, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Blades, I am not sure how to ban vandals :) Ask either Pharuan Undearth or Zerak-Tul, both might have an answer... if you get it... please let me know. :) Darkwynters 18:53, October 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Whenever I see a vandal, I report them over at . They usually respond within fifteen minutes or so. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 19:02, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Cronje, Thanks!!! Darkwynters 19:07, October 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Nice thank's :D! ^^ Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  19:16, October 10, 2011 (UTC) Note: Jesus the first guy on that list o.0!?

Blades, I am keeping it there as a lesson... "take your time when editing" :) Darkwynters 20:05, October 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Weapons
Yeah, that short description of ranged weapons is badly worded. I will probably make a Thrown Weapons subcategory. What do you think of the page format for standard weapons? See flail for an example. The only problem I have with it is the opening statement is just a lame reiteration of something in the Description section. If you think of any improvements, please let me know. Moviesign 13:42, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks great, Movie!!! Darkwynters 18:53, October 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Jezz the Lame
You may want to check citations already in place before editing. The reference to House Jaelre as Vhaeraun worshippers was already cited in the FRCS. Perhaps you merely overlooked that bit of the description. The other stuff (like levels and alignment) appear in Shadowdale: The Scouring of the Land. I presume whoever made those changes forgot to reference it.

Other than that, you did well on the restructuring but in the future add the unreferenced tag if you are unsure where the info is coming from.--Eli the Tanner 01:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Eli, I completely understand... thanks for variation on the updates for Jezz... I killed him a few years ago... and I remember his old stats... Thanks :) Darkwynters 02:40, October 12, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

What do you think?
What do you think of this edit: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/index.php?title=Barrabus_the_Gray&curid=23628&diff=115544&oldid=115335 Is that right or wrong bounce i have no idea :S!


 * Blades, Since Cronje fixed it... I would say it was vandalism :) Darkwynters 18:33, October 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Pteranadon...
Nah mate its fine, i was dead tired last night so i forogt to look for the creature template after that edit i crashed. Thats how you get more edits add the info box then find info and then refrence it. boom 3 edit/types in one shot. Pharuan Undearth 16:45, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, I am glad... I spent sometime fixing that page... and then realized you had edited it, good thing I saved it and then added your edit :) Plus, I was also tired of the spelling error guy!!! Darkwynters 18:39, October 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Don't we all i think though he is a user who wasn't signed on i think.Pharuan Undearth 21:03, October 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, I think he was confused with the Pteranodon from the Monstrous Compendium Forgotten Realms Appendix (MC3) by TSR :) That is why I decided to check it out myself!!! Darkwynters 21:11, October 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * was he right or wrong with the speeling and info. and what did you find.Pharuan Undearth 21:14, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Speed Editing
If you don't mind, please wait a couple of days before editing my pages. I may have just saved so I could go eat dinner and didn't want my session to time out. I often go back and refine my pages etc. so please have a little patience with me. Thanks! Moviesign 00:18, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Movie, I am sorry... I will not edit your pages when I see them in the recent posts:) Darkwynters 00:30, October 14, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Yes sir...
Yes all reference points should be at least aluded to if not stated, what you did was excellent. It specifically points out people and places from differnt sources. Great sectioning and what not. Love it more eidts. Pharuan Undearth 13:21, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, Thanks!!! Darkwynters 20:23, November 25, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Duplicate categories
I have been unable to find the duplicate categories for Category:Buildings in Beliard, Category:Buildings in Dagger Falls, Category:Inhabitants of Neverwinter Woods, and Category:Swamps. ➳ Quin 04:02, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

you too...
Thanks for leaving the note Wynters your contibutions aren't trifling by any standards dude. Was onna leave this anyway, have a good holiday my friend. Pharuan Undearth 05:33, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, you have a fantastic holiday :) Darkwynters 09:27, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Gorion image
Your image in the infobox is an unofficial fan art created by a fan, nothing official, just a personal interpretation of Gorion you can find here:

http://artastrophe.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2wn92p

The image currently in the infobox is an official image from Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, an official interpretation of Gorion. Light-Revan 23:55, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Image tags
Hi there. Could you please use image tags from Category:Copyright tags when uploading images, and place them in the relevant subcategory within Category:Images? Thanks. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 18:43, January 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick response. 2e images are still under copyright, but if they're low-resolution and there are no free images to illustrate the same thing, I believe they can be tagged under fair use. We have had no complaints in over 6 years, so hopefully what we've done so far is acceptable. Where possible, do credit the artist, although I realise that's not always possible. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 19:15, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hierarchical categorisation
Any particular reason for an edit such as this one? I see there are lots of edits like this. Whereas previously there was a hierarchy, such that:


 * Northwest Faerûn
 * Sword Coast North
 * Neverwinter
 * High Forest
 * Mhilamniir
 * etc

It's now a muddled system where categories appear within many parent categories, such that:


 * Northwest Faerûn
 * Neverwinter
 * Sword Coast North
 * Neverwinter
 * High Forest
 * Mhilamniir
 * Mhilamniir
 * etc

I believe this just makes it more difficult to find things, because if you are looking at the subcategories of Category:Inhabitants of Northwest Faerûn, you are overwhelmed by subcategories representing every little place that happens to be in Northwest Faerûn, rather than being faced with just the areas that Northwest Faerûn is directly divided into. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 22:57, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know, I left a message on my talk page on this subject rather than reply here. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 18:39, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Durlag
Hey buddy, thanks for the feedback, but why did you rearrange Durlag's page? The family section was far clearer before hand. I dont understand your summary. cheers. Thomaslove92 02:52, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ah no worries, i was just being a bit twitchy over the page, took me ages to word it haha. I like the bullets, i had it in bullets originally, they are clear to read. I didn't know there was a page for his dad, couldn't find it. The stuff in Volos guide is good, i have the pdf. Dont worry about editing it, i saw the Durlag Tower edits you did, nice work.

im a big ol fan of the baldurs gate games, and you learn so much about durlag and his tower whilst completing it, shame its not technically canon, hehe.Thomaslove92 23:36, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, had a go at Bolhur, thanks for the help. Thomaslove92 10:16, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Battlehammer image
I'm gonna render a crest for the battle hammer clan, the tankerd of ale. Theres a good picture of the symbol in the book A Reader's Guide to R. A. Salvatore's the Legend of Drizzt.

We're getting to be a good team, going round neatening up this place hehe.


 * Agreed :) Darkwynters 02:53, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

infoboxes
so what's the plan for building infoboxes? i didn't get what you were saying on that edit earlier? cheers Thomaslove92 00:41, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * okay no worries, just let me know when we get the green light :) Thomaslove92 00:53, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
No worries, I will take a look at Category:Articles nominated for deletion! Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 00:57, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Skaug
Nice work on skaug, i was surprised there was no page already, so started the page and had a flick through some of my source books. The organization is great, i'll start adding info in the next few hours.Thomaslove92 20:19, February 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sweet! Darkwynters 20:21, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

The House of Firehair
Please check the source that is already provided before you edit an article. Power of Faerun capitalises 'The' throughout. Until a more recent source is provided which contradicts this I will undo your edit.--Eli the Tanner 16:46, February 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... Eli, I believe I will post this on FW's page... and I will look for a more recent source... I still think the "the" should not be capitalized since it is not in the Forgotten Realms Adventures.

Dethek
Hey buddy, can i get your thoughts or knowledge over here Talk:Dethek? Thanks Thomaslove92 23:15, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Moonlit Tower
Thanks for the tidy to Moonlit Tower. I removed the extra spaces in the side-box because it was expanding weirdly, but that didn't help. I guess it was hungry for more information. :)

Just a question: is to necessary to divide an article into sections like that? I know it's nice on longer articles, but I didn't think there was enough information to warrant separate sections here, so I didn't bother. -- 23:38, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Tenses
Hey dude, wheres the page on tenses, i need to learn the policy for it. Also how do we reword that page cos it now says '...was the current king...' which doens't make sense!!?! Cheers dude Thomaslove92 22:37, February 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thom... I will show you a link on your page :) Darkwynters 23:46, February 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah.. that answers a lot of questions, thanks. i'll make sure all my new articles fit in with this. It makes a lot of sense now :D Thomaslove92 00:02, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Measurements
Could I ask you a favour, which is to give measurements in both metric and imperial formats, metric first? An example would be: "1.8m (6ft)" or perhaps "1.8m (6')". Although USA uses imperial measurements (and Wizards too, since they're US-based), almost everyone else in the world has moved to the metric system, so it's good to give both, with metric first. Maybe this should be a policy, come to think of it. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 20:54, March 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sweet, thanks FW :) Darkwynters 06:35, March 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes I'd say metric for everything, although there is some debate as to how accurate we need to be. 3.04m is pretty much just 3m, so unless the subject calls for a very accurate measurement, it's probably fine to round it off a bit. As for the spelling of the units, perhaps we should come to an agreement on that. Initially I saw no issue with writing 40kg or 40lb, but would it be clearer to write 40 pounds? I am not sure. I do think 40ft is clearer than 40' (since that notation can mean other things), although again maybe 40 feet is better? Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 18:25, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Classes
Great question about classes. For sourcebooks it's easy because the class is explicitly stated. For novels it's more difficult. I'd say that just because someone is described as a "fearsome warrior" does not necessarily give him or her the warrior class. It would be a matter of judgment I suppose. If a character is obviously casting cleric spells in a novel, it would be fine to give the class as cleric.

Finding the line between the literary expression and the class definition is going to be tough, but if, next to the class, you provide the source (remember for novels you need the book name, the page, and the edition!) then I think people have the opportunity to object on the talk page. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 21:14, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Appearance or physical description
Regarding this edit, I was wondering why the change from "Appearance" to "Physical description". The consensus does appear to use "Appearance", although is there a specific advantage to "Physical description"? There are no hard-and-fast rules on the wiki for this, which is why I was curious. What do you think? Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 14:51, March 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have a good point about the confusion possible between "appearance" (physical appearance) and "appearances" (books where the character was mentioned. Do you prefer "physical description" or "physical appearance"? I would like to set up a standard list of sections as a policy, which will act as a guideline for putting together an article, say, about a person, so all the main sections are called the same thing across the majority of the articles. Of course, it won't stop subsections (background/history is often split into subsections) having their own names, but is a further step to standardization. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 17:59, March 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done, see Forum:Standardizing article sections! Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 20:29, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Articles lacking sources
Just a heads up that Category:Articles lacking sources gets added automatically if you put the unreferenced template at the top of an article, and removed again automatically when the template goes. If someone introduces sources to an article but the cat's been manually added, it might end up not getting removed! Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 10:54, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Settlements vs. Locations
In my opinions, the appropriate articles should include both 'Settlements in...' and 'Locations in...' categories', since both apply. Also, the 'Settlements in...' category pages should be inside the 'Locations in...' categories. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:45, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorting for individuals
Since you contributed on my talk page, I thought it best to move the discussion to Forum:Sort categories for individuals, if you'd like to take a look! Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 17:48, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Tower of Twilight
I noticed your recent edit of the Tower of Twilight article and (curious as I am about all Harpells) decided to check out the reference and learn more about Malchor Harpell. However, there's no mention of him or the Tower of Twilight on page 9 or mention of him retiring from the tower anywhere in that book, so far as I can tell. Are you sure you're citing the correct book? Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 14:54, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Re: Dating: I don't think there's an official policy on how to date events like Malchor's living in the Tower, but when I see something like 1356 DR - 1372 DR, I tend to think that he wasn't there after 1372 DR. My personal preference is to leave the range open (1356 DR - ) and then, somewhere in the article, maybe reference that the person was last known to inhabit (or something like that) a place as of XX DR. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 18:28, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, what...
the hell are you talking about in Tower of Twilight. Of course it's copied everything is. If you mean copied and pasted then just re-word your statements. Plus the atricle should've been on the site before we even came on dude. Anyway, hello. Pharuan Undearth 09:45, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * ah ha good to know, just saw a bunch of older edits being moded and i thought i'd pop in and take a look. Well like i said above Just rearange your words/put it in ur words and everything should be fine. Pharuan Undearth 17:02, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Fixing the past
Thanks for pointing out the plagiarized histories and thanks for volunteering to replace these deleted pages with the up-to-date originals. I'll leave that to you, but if you get stuck, I can pull them out of the deletion history. Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 14:37, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sandboxes
Re: Your post on my Talk page -- Sandboxes are just the same as normal pages; sandbox is just a title I like to use for works-in-progress. When I'm working on something, but don't feel like it's ready for the main namespace, I just create a sub-page of my User page: User:Cronje/Sandbox, for example. You can create as many as you need (within reason, of course), as needed. For the pages you mentioned, you could do something like User:Darkwynters/Sandbox/Tower of Twilight, User:Darkwynters/Sandbox/Settlestone, etc., or even get rid of the /Sandbox part entirely.

I wouldn't worry too much about making mistakes. I certainly made a few when I started. Hell, I screwed up Cite book by accidentally getting rid of the isbn parameter. Thankfully Fw190a8 caught my mistake and fixed it. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 17:09, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Merge where?
Hello! You have marked Monstrous Compendium Kara-Tur Appendix and a few more articles as to be merged. As a contributor to those articles I am interested: What is your plan? Where do you want to merge which pages? Thanks for telling. Daranios 14:58, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * No hard feelings at all :-). I just did not get what you were aiming at at first. I have tried to voice my opinion at Talk:List of creatures from Monstrous Compendium Kara-Tur Appendix. Daranios 18:46, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Red Tiger Tribe cats
Categorization is a tricky subject for me. I prefer things simple. Since Category:Uthgardt is a subcat of a subcat of Category:Organizations by class|Barbarian it's already listed as an organization.

I actually think we need a Help:Categorization page to act as a guideline written as a community to see what we all agree with. It's about 3rd on my list of things to do on the wiki though at the moment.

If you want to put the old cats back, then I won't revert them but if you do, could you put the same cats on every Uthgardt tribe article? hashtalk 14:47, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hash, cool, and yes I think we need a more defined category policy for the wiki...

Cronje has some really good ideas :) If you want I will make categorizing the Uthgardt my chief responsibility right now :) Darkwynters 20:16, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Picture category
Sorry if I'm buddying in here out of no where but... I was wondering about categories for images: If we have a image with a race/creature should that image go under the category of that creature even tough the specific race/creature is not the main "objective" of the image? Like this: should Nightcloak image Be under the Genasi category? or should Forest master image be under Gray render? Again sorry if I'm just jumping in to this conversation! Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  17:11, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Blades, I think you should directly ask Hash, Cronje, or FW about your category question :) Darkwynters 20:16, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Plagiarism quesion
Noticed your question on Talk:Nomog-Geaya and here's my answer: Anything published on wikipedia is considered licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License and therefore equally available to be published here. Of course if the content on wikipedia is plagiarised or otherwise protected under any other law, then it shouldn't be on this site. hashtalk 05:18, July 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hash, cool, thanks :) Darkwynters 05:42, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Arcane Brotherhood
Thanks dude by seeing my Edits on Arcane Brotherhood page. I'm starting a new campaign on that city and reading a lot about them. Most of info was found in Lords of Darkness and that logo was Black and White there, I colored it by myself with the logo description in that book, its not the best drawing but it helps a bit. I'm extending that page in a few days with more info about the NPCs. My English isn't the best so if you find some error i would be very grateful.

See ya (Unknown User a/k/a User:Frostah)


 * Cool :) Darkwynters 17:13, July 4, 2012 (UTC)