Talk:Spellplague

Once again we see "perfectly good ideas tossed" for marketing's sake. In order to sell the "shlock" that is D&D 4.0 (Dungeon & Dragons for Dummies) WOC will go to all lengths including ditching a realm into the trash. I have read so many books on the Realms and have come to love their heroes and gods. THanks WOC for f_ing it all in your excuse to peddle 4.0 which in Gary Gyax's opinion was crap. -- SieteRayos
 * The wiki isn't a forum nor a place for the discussion on the merits (or lack thereof depending on your opinion) of the Spellplague. Don't post anything in the talk page unless you actually have an issue or suggestion relevant to the article in a constructive fashion.
 * Thank you. Niirfa-sa 18:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me if I mistook the TALK section for open discussion. Usually in Wikis you use talk to discuss and or criticize. Are you going to censor peoples opinions? -- SieteRayos


 * The TALK section (as you say) is for talk about the article and suggestions for how to make it better. It is not for trolling. If you want to do that, go to WOTC's forums, ENWorld, or many of the other sites which are best suited for such discussions.Niirfa-sa 17:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, please try to keep discussion relevent to the article it corresponds to. We're not censoring you in any way, just trying not to fill up our talk pages with meaningless debate over a related, but irrelevant topic of debate. And by the by, Gary Gygax thought everything after 2nd edition was crap. hashtalk 22:32, 30 October 2008 (GMT)


 * Not to add onto anything, but Gygax actually thought everything after 1st edition AD&D was crap. But yes, that's the point I was trying to get across. Niirfa-sa 23:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Listen since I have been playing AD&D since highschool and that was 1981. I thought maybe I would add my opinion about how Realms has changed for the worse. Since you choose to call that trolling you can go back to adding things from the manuals verbetim. You can run your wiki the way you want. Just erase what I said so there will be no opposition to your rules. -- SieteRayos


 * Heh, this guy is funny. He'd be so easy to wind up in RL. I love people like that. Full of poorly spelled 'righteous indignation'. Seriously though, this article is still too short, needs to be expanded, I mean, come on, this is the biggest Realms shaker since the ToT and it's barely 2 paragraphs. hashtalk 15:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do to lengthen the article. I happen to have all the material about it on me. Niirfa-sa 19:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Must be great to be so superior as to attack the arguer as opposed to the argument. I will make sure my spelling is up to par. -- SieteRayos

Also, not only was Toril altered, but so was the entire cosmology. Abeir and Toril trading landmasses, the World Tree formation of the celestial planes destroyed, causing deities’ realms to enter the Astral Plane, the elemental planes merging into the Elemental Chaos, the Feywild reappearing, the Far Realm (Wikia:c:Annex:Far Realm) introduced… ➳ Quin 22:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

SieteRayos, you can discuss your opinions about the fourth edition changes to the Forgotten Realms here. ➳ Quin 22:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance. --

Crapt! I only know and own the books befor the Time of Troubles! I mssed a lot. I need to get up to date, and expanding this article could. I may not know much about recent Forgotten Raelams history, but I would liketo help. Couls someone tell what books pertain the Spellplague. I will buy them, read them, and help expsand this page thank you! Also, when I lived in Leominster, I lived two block down the street from R A Salvatore's house. Sadly, I was not a fanof Forgotten Realms then. Also, with all the stuff happeneing due to the Spellplague, could some dead gods come back? Will the Primordials renew their age old war with the Gods of Faerun? What happened to Elmonster? Will the elemntals wage war on the citizens of the abyss? Is Mystra truly dead, or did some of her essence survive?--8thGhazneth 18:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Empyrean Odyssey deals with how the Spellplague came to be. The Abolethic Sovereignty deals with the emergence of the ancient aboleths from near the core of the planet as a result of the Spellplague. The Wilds is a series independent novels that take place in lands deeply affected by the Spellplague. Waterdeep is a series of independent novels that take place in Waterdeep in 1479 DR. ➳ Quin 18:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * As for Elminster, he became very depressed and withdrawn and is now taken care of by Alassra Silverhand (the Simbul). He and Alassra were the only Chosen of Mystra to survive the Spellplague. ➳ Quin 18:51, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

08/16/2010 = Have to agree that DND 4th ed was a sale out by hasbro, and that they are on there way to wreak another campaign setting. Have moved on to the Pathfinder Game setting which is like 3.75 rules by the publisher that use to do Dragon Magazine.

09/15/2011 = I do believe there was another chosen that survived. Storm Silverhand, Alassra's sister was alive in the book, "Elminster Must Die: The Sage of Shadowdale". It was released August 3, 2010. I too have moved into the Pathfinder Game setting. 4th ed was quite terrible.