Talk:Chunming

A Tale of Two Chunmings
There is a major conflict over Chunming. In the original KTCS and in the Atlas, Chunming is a city in T'u Lung: it appears on the coast of T'u Lung on the setting map and is referenced in the T'u Lung chapter, making it clear it's part of that empire (in the Ausa Province). However, Spelljammer lore has Chunming as a coastal city in Shou Lung, clearly part of that empire, exact location unknown.

How to resolve these? The two empires are at war, so they can hardly be sharing a city and spelljammer port facilities. Both Chunmings are set in the mid–14 century DR, so it can't be set while T'u Lung was still a part of Shou Lung. Could the spacefarers be mistaken, still thinking T'u Lung is Shou Lung? I doubt it; two Shou Lung characters from Cham Fau have moved into the SJ Chunming, and it would mean ignoring everything about the place.

I suspect the Realmspace designers chose Chunming via the classic dart-thrown-at-a-map technique, and got entirely the wrong empire. There is a village called "Ch'ungming" in Shou Lung, but it's inland, in hills, nowhere near a coast. I can't find another candidate on the Shou Lung coast.

So, I propose to split the two with a Chunming (T'u Lung) article. It's much less well-known, so this article can keep the name. I can write it. — BadCatMan (talk) 10:22, February 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * One more for T'u Lung: takes place in "the T'u Lung province of Ausa, beginning in the city of Chunming in the Shin District". &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:50, February 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * Yup, I went through that adventure, it didn't change anything from the KTCS version. — BadCatMan (talk) 14:48, February 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * There is also a discrepancy with the name of An Ching Wang's betrothed. Her history is otherwise (mostly) consistent with what is presented in p. 35 of Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms, except that there her lover's name is given as Chien Jang Liang, whereas in the SJ version he is called Yu Fu Tieh. ― Sirwhiteout (talk) 15:04, February 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * Unless she had two boyfriends, both prized students of her father, who both injured him in training, one an accident, one in an argument over spelljamming. Well, it's not impossible. There's an interesting love triangle story there. I could see a kung fu movie in that. Alternatively, the writer looked at the entry, deliberately decided to change the reason and name, and misread the name of Hu Tieh in the neighboring column. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — BadCatMan (talk) 06:04, February 23, 2020 (UTC)