Talk:Northmen

Can we just redirect this term to Northlander? On that page they're defined as synonymous.Wanderscribe (talk) 17:48, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wander, good point... I thought about doing just that yesterday :) Darkwynters (talk) 18:40, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Great minds... although now that I'm wandering around, technically Northlander should maybe redirect to Illuskan, since Races of Faerun p92 defines those as the same thing. Illuskan seems like the more official, proper term (at least of 3e), while Northlander or Northman are colloquial terms.  ...Unless there's a source that establishes that Northlanders are specifically just the Illuskans of the Moonshaes.  RoF seems to say that any/all Illuskans are also called Northlanders.  Just my two coppers. Wanderscribe (talk) 20:49, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * AHHHHH... actually, last night I thought maybe Northlander was just the Moonshae Isles northmen... and Northmen were ALL the viking people, but now... hmmm... must think... thank you, Wander :) Darkwynters (talk) 20:53, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea, I thought so too, until I checked it today... I haven't read the Moonshae books in a long time but my personal conclusion is that the Ffolk use Northmen (or Northlanders) as a partly-fearful-partly-derogatory term. And perhaps the other human subraces of the mainland North refer to Illuskans as Northlanders (or Northmen; whichever word the Ffolk don't use) in the same sort of way.  This justifies having both terms, and both of them being informal terms for the same ethnic group of humans.  Purely my opinion, and not of much use in looking for canon, but I like to ramble. :P Wanderscribe (talk) 21:16, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, so Northmen and Northlanders are technically another term for Illuskans... at least this is how I read page 92 of Races of Faerûn... on page 148 of Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition, the Northmen of the Moonshaes are called Northlanders, so either the info on the Northlander page needs to be added to the Illuskan page or Northlander just becomes a subpage of the Illuskan page... though for housekeeping, I think the info should be moved and the Northmen and Northlander pages become redirects to the Illuskan page... just my two copper thumbs :) Darkwynters (talk) 21:47, December 18, 2012 (UTC)