Talk:Velsharoon

Velsharoon and Mellifleur
Velsharoon has, according to Powers & Pantheons, the name Mellifleur as an alias, who was introduced as generic (multi-sphere) god of liches in Monster Mythology. Although the two deities have some similarities, their history and details do not match. Does anyone know if there is an official Realms explanation how the two are linked? Daranios (talk) 06:41, May 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * There's been a lot of speculation on forums, but I don't recall any solid, canon connection between them. There's "Melith", a minor deity of creativity in Chessenta, but that's even more speculative. — BadCatMan (talk) 07:31, May 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * Mellifleur's origin story is given in Dragon #359 p. 121, but it is unclear if the story pertains to the Realms (the articles says the material comes from D&D's past editions). He achieved lesser god–hood by sheer luck, stealing the divine essence that was supposed to be given to the follower of another (unnamed) evil deity. This 3.5 ed. source does say he lives in Gehenna. He is also mentioned in the Planes of Conflict, Libre Malevolentia on p. 28 as being "the dire Lich-Lord" in Gehenna. Hope that helps. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:02, May 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that sounds like the same story given on p. 109 of Monster Mythology. On Hallowed Ground, predating Powers & Pantheons, gives Mellifleur the same realm of Death's Embrace as Velsharoon (before Manual of the Planes 3rd edition comes along and changes that again), also suggesting some connection. But in the end that means Mellifleur (aside from being another name for Velsharoon) should be ignored outside of footnotes, as his description contradicts a Realms source, right? Daranios (talk) 16:22, May 20, 2018 (UTC)