Forgotten Realms Wiki:Featured article nominations/archive

This page lists archived Featured article nominations, i.e., those that did not make it through the nomination process. This is either due to rejection or lack of communication from the nominator or author. For those that were successful, see this list. These can be added back to the nomination list at any point, should someone wish to work on them.

Nine Hells

 * Vote
 * 4


 * For
 * Moviesign, Darkwynters, SilverTiger, Regis


 * Against
 * Disclaimer
 * I rewrote much of this article. – Moviesign
 * I rewrote much of this article. – Moviesign


 * Pros
 * big article, copious references, good infobox, demonstrates use of the "notes" template, attempts to cover all versions of the plane over three cosmology models. – Moviesign
 * excellent organization, expertly sourced, and interesting subject matter - Darkwynters (talk) 18:38, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well formatted and referenced article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:19, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * topic is not universally appealing, could be improved with more material from newer sources, only the one image. – Moviesign
 * I added two more images to help break up the wall of text. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:59, September 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * the article does lack specific references to the Realms, though it does include Forgotten Realms sourcebooks - Darkwynters (talk) 18:38, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Missing essential associated articles (two of the Hells are missing). ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:19, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Lacking: No appearances, no quotes etc. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:19, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Requests

Zhentil Keep

 * Vote
 * -2


 * For
 * Moviesign


 * Against
 * hash, Darkwynters, Possessed Priest


 * Disclaimer
 * Pros
 * Big article, well referenced, popular topic, extra images. – Moviesign
 * Big & reasonably comprehensive – hash
 * Cons
 * Quite a few red links. – Moviesign (Withdrawn)
 * The timeline in Ruins of Zhentil Keep upon which a lot of the article is based was deliberately written with a pro-zhentarim bias. Red links. – hash
 * Missing sources; needs clean up and organization - Darkwynters
 * Notable Locations has almost no information. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:14, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Most sentences/paragraphs missing references. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:14, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Only one image and no quotes. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:14, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * General page is untidy in most places, isn't up to the standard of a Good article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:14, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Cross-reference with other sources so the article is truthful. – hash
 * Cross-reference with other sources so the article is truthful. – hash

Mithral Hall

 * Vote
 * 0


 * For
 * Moviesign


 * Against
 * Darkwynters


 * Disclaimer
 * Pros
 * Big article, well referenced, well-known topic, gallery – Moviesign
 * Cons
 * Some subsections fall below the three-sentence rule/guideline. – Moviesign
 * Organization; entire sections need citations; needs more clarity in wording - Darkwynters
 * Requests
 * Requests

Kalach-Cha

 * Vote
 * -1


 * For
 * BadCatMan


 * Against
 * Darkwynters, hash


 * Disclaimer
 * Pros
 * Huge (biggest real article on the wiki), complete, popular topic — BadCatMan
 * Popular — hash
 * Cons
 * No pictures, huge wall of text. B canon, but that's not a real drawback. The main problem is the language: it's very vague, severely overuses "would" statements, uses awkward his/her and he/she genders, and generally suffers for trying to accommodate the branching storylines of the game and player customisation of the character. — BadCatMan
 * Too comprehensive - lots of information that doesn't need to be there; Lots of red links; unattractive. — hash
 * Organization; needs to be reworded; no sources for specific game references - Darkwynters
 * Requests
 * This needs an edit to improve the language (hey, that's something I can do). Pictures can be included by taking scenes from the game and other character (essentially, the article is as much a synopsis of the game as it is a biography of the character). — BadCatMan
 * Feels like I am playing a game, not reading about a person and his history - Darkwynters
 * Feels like I am playing a game, not reading about a person and his history - Darkwynters

Marsember

 * Nominated by
 * Moviesign


 * Disclaimer
 * I just discovered it was a Featured Article in the past. I haven't looked at it yet.


 * Vote
 * 1


 * For
 * Jandor, Regis87


 * Against
 * Possessed Priest


 * Pros
 * At first glance, it doesn't seem that bad. — Jandor (talk) 16:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * Not fleshed out enough to be a Featured Article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:03, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Mainly only relies on two sources, VGtC and the novel. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:03, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Refs missing at end of paragraphs (and other places), inconsistent formatting in locations. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:03, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Needs general tidying. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:03, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Appendix and all subsections missing. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:03, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Being a quite popular area of FR (Cormyr, although I'm not that fond of this area yet), we should also look it more thoroughly for possible easy refreshes-updates-enrichment. — Jandor (talk) 16:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict
 * Being a quite popular area of FR (Cormyr, although I'm not that fond of this area yet), we should also look it more thoroughly for possible easy refreshes-updates-enrichment. — Jandor (talk) 16:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict
 * Verdict

Mystra

 * Nominated by
 * Moviesign


 * Disclaimer
 * I rewrote most of this article. – Moviesign


 * Vote
 * 1


 * For
 * Regis87


 * Against
 * Pros
 * A fairly well-rounded article that hopefully sheds some light on the confusion of the many Mystras. – Moviesign
 * Quite a few nice illustrations – Moviesign
 * Well written and fleshed out, a very important goddess. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Cons
 * Subject is from pre-Time of Troubles and is therefore 2nd-edition with limited sources, not very modern, and might have limited appeal. – Moviesign
 * Mystryl/Mystra is important to the setting in all her incarnations, and this Mystra's actions continue to have importance (making the Chosen, raising gods, etc.) — BadCatMan (talk)
 * I have laid the foundation, but this article needs fleshing out with information from the novels before it's feature-worthy. – Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Much of the history is based on adventure sourcebooks and not the novels. Please discuss at Talk:Mystra, especially whether this is a con or not. I honestly don't know. – Moviesign
 * Yeah, there's a lot more history and personality to her in the novels. I touched on this at the Talk page. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Someone please add info and flavor from the novels. – Moviesign
 * Verdict
 * Yeah, there's a lot more history and personality to her in the novels. I touched on this at the Talk page. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Someone please add info and flavor from the novels. – Moviesign
 * Verdict

Neverwinter (game)

 * Nominated by:Regis87 (talk)
 * Disclaimer:
 * Vote: –3
 * For: Regis87
 * Against: Possessed Priest, Lhynard,SilverTiger,Artie
 * Pros:
 * Full Index
 * Very detailed write-up on the various plotlines in the game
 * Detailed write-ups about the modules
 * Updated frequently as new material is released
 * Lots of images breaking up the walls of text
 * Cons:
 * Is a video game, so not 100% official canon
 * Even if true (which it isn't, unless it contradicts something higher in the hierarchy), that is not part of the criteria to discriminate a featured article from a non-featured one. ~ Possessed Priest
 * The index is nowhere near full or complete ~ Possessed Priest
 * Despite being a long article, it is not at all completely covered (this game has a wiki with more pages than us!) ~ Possessed Priest
 * Inconsistent sections. Some modules have date tags (such as Module 1), others do not (such as Module 7): i.e., Released November 2015 vs no tag ~ Possessed Priest
 * Wall of text and a lot of red links in the index. It might be possible/advisable to link some things (such as characters) as redirects to the game's own wiki.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:19, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * The article is way too large. The modules should be their own articles. ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:20, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * Paragraphs are not cited properly. ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:20, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * The article cannot decide whether it is written in-universe or out-of-universe. ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:20, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * The index is still far from being complete, I've been adding to it for over a year now, and it needs clean up and organization. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 18:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Dark Seldarine

 * Nominated by
 * Regis87


 * Disclaimer
 * Vote
 * 1
 * 1


 * For
 * Regis87, SilverTiger


 * Against
 * Possessed Priest


 * Pros:
 * Very thorough, fully referenced, good infobox, uses notes, and is organized.
 * A model for other pantheon articles; this particular pantheon has had its fingers in many events over the centuries.
 * Cons:
 * Could use some more inline images.
 * Ditto. The article is a wall of text, which scares many readers away.
 * ToC is too long. The best articles should avoid using 4 level headings. Instead of ====, we should be using a semicolon to bold the sub-sub-sub-headings.
 * We should avoid headings with links and instead use Main. Similarly, I suspect that some of the content could be moved to sub-articles to make the current article less overwhelming in length.
 * Article is essentially a wall of text, no images, border boxes, or even quotes (for which there are several) to split up the article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 11:53, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Keptolo should be fleshed out or removed (major red link and connections red link). Realms or not? A drow deity, as is Vulkoor, but no strict Realms relation. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 11:53, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Appendix lacking: no appearances, gallery, external links. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 11:53, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * I just upgraded the article to GA status. However, I don't think it is quite up to par to be a Featured Article, though my things against it are minor and fixable. (Also, I am really picky about what makes a Feature Article, so please do not take it personally!) ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:08, April 14, 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there any more information about Zinzerena's return? Also, there is a really weird parethesed note in the second paragraph of the Second Sundering section.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:19, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * Verdict
 * No response from nominator, this has been archived for now.

Sha'ir

 * Nominated by:Artemaz
 * Disclaimer:I wrote this article myself.
 * Vote: 1
 * For: Artemaz, Regis
 * Against: Possessed Priest (talk)
 * Pros:
 * Full-length, detailed article covering a fascinating form of wizard.
 * agreed ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Would be nice to expand the Featured Articles to include pages showcasing Al-Qadim.
 * agreed ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Well illustrated ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * As it is, this is a nice "Good Article" (by our standards). Good amount of references from the Al-Qadim campaign setting. I'd really like to see this featured too. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Almost no red links! ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Incomplete infobox. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No references in infobox. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Missing links throughout article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Not complete enough for a featured article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Loads of missing information from The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook, i.e., details on sha'ir rituals and much more. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Only page 20 is referenced from the handbook. There should be more information from such a crucial text for this to be a featured article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This article doesn't link to a lot of other important articles to do with sha'ir, i.e., links to sha'ir rituals (Cloak of Gathering Shadows, etc). ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Lots of images of of sha'irs missing in the gallery. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No quotes or fqs to break up the article. There are loads of quotes in the handbook afaik, and it would be nice to feature some. Check the mind flayer page for an example of how to break it up. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Incomplete appendix: are there no appearances of sha'irs in Al-Qadim adventures? Check A Dozen and One Adventures, Reunion, Ruined Kingdoms, etc. Same with Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This article only relies on one source: Arabian Adventures, with mentions of 3 others. Cite adventures or other material. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Infobox needs to be updated to the modern version with edition tabs. ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Remove the long list of Known Sha'irs and replace with a link to the category page and/or reduce the list to a smaller set, where notable features of each are also given: "Foo al-Bar, a sha'ir notable for saving the city of Woo{ref}" ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Left justify the gallery and shrink the images in it to standard size. ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Are there any 3e images? Color images? ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Verdict
 * No response from nominator, this has been archived for now.

Moonshae Isles

 * Nominated by: Regis
 * Disclaimer: I expanded the article
 * Vote: -1
 * For:Regis
 * Against:Lhynard, Possessed Priest
 * Pros:
 * Added all missing citations. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * There's still a tag on the article for citations being missing. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Expanded all existing sections, created new sections. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Added missing information from 1e and 2e. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Added inline images throughout the article. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Formatted the infobox with proper template. Formatted sections to have minimal ToC. Added "Main Article" links where applicable. (one section, History, was going to be so big I made a separate History of the Moonshae Isles page). ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The proper way to minimize the ToC is to use, not to misuse wiki definition mark-up. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Article is about one of the main locations in the Realms, as such can be considered Important as per the criteria. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * agreed ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Really good work cleaning this up: good quote and images throughout the article, demonstrating features of the wiki. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Contains the major history of the Moonshae Isles, and links to a page with a fuller version. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * It's a great start, but it would fail to be a good article currently, as it hasn't been copy-edited yet, and it is flagged as lacking proper citations. It's far too early to nominate as a featured article, though I suspect that it will get there soon. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Having a [citation needed] is acceptable for normal articles, let alone a featured one. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It requires a copy-edit. ~ Regis87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Missing very important articles (red links). The first sentence of the main article has one: Sea of Moonshae, which is a bit of a red flag. Same with its most notable locations (bold red link), such as Tetris. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Appearances section is very far from complete. The Moonshaes appear in many more sources, such as magazines, novels, several video games. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Infobox is missing links. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Requires more than a technical copy-edit for grammar, spelling, etc: some sections and sentences aren't coherent and don't seem to have been looked at. "Earthmother. who was believed to be an aspect of the deity Chauntea, was worshiped exclusively on the Moonshae Isles.", "In 1345 DR,[31],", etc. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Too early to be considered featured.
 * Proofread by the author needed.
 * Copy-edit.
 * Verdict
 * No response from nominator, this has been archived for now.

Dispater

 * Nominated by : SilverTiger
 * Disclaimer : None
 * Vote : 1
 * For : SilverTiger
 * Against :
 * Pros :
 * Big article, well-organized, complete, had neat features like quotes.
 * Dispater has a long history in D&D, having been around all 5 editions.
 * Usage of quotes and images throughout the article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Currently, this is far from a Featured Article or even a Good Article (it does not meet the criteria for a Good Article, as it not correctly referenced in parts, see below). ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: does the cleanup author want this to be Featured? If so, all my comments from the Bel nomination thread apply here. (Missing references from the infobox, and several missing links, a reference itself is formatted incorrectly or missing). Please could the cleanup author (only if they want to!) take into account all of these comments. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * There are no appearances and no referenced only appearances listed. If he was mentioned in Realms sources, like Elminster in Hell, this needs to be explicitly listed. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The article needs to be drilled back to its Realms relevance. At the moment, it reads like a core article with only one mention of Faerûn and no appearances. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The "Realm" section (Dis) goes far beyond Dispater himself, and should be included in the Dis article or discarded. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The quote formats are strange. For example: Dispater should not be italicised, and one of the quotes is really long. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * I'll add more comments, but as most of them are the same issues as in the previous discussed thread, I will hold off for now. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Verdict
 * No response from nominator, this has been archived for now.