Template talk:Arcane spellcasters

I can find no evidence of a class called "Binder". All references to this word point to Oghma or occasionally to the craft professions of "Printers and Binders". None of these indicate any sort of arcane magical, or shadow magical ability. Please correct me (with a source) if I'm wrong. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 15:15, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Whoops, I spoke too soon. Apparently the Binder class is similar to a Warlock, so I'm just going to remove the redirect to Oghma. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 15:23, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Isn't the Binder one of the three classes seen in the 3.5 Tome of Magic? --Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 18:06, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is. They summon and bind weird spirits for magical power. They're definitely arcane spellcasters. — BadCatMan (talk) 02:35, January 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Just looked it up in my ToM; indeed, binders are a type of arcane magic-user who binds extra-dimensional entities called vestiges and draws powers from them. Since one of the vestiges is Karsus, they have implicit connection to FR canon.
 * --Sings-With-Spirits (talk) 03:06, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both! :) &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 05:24, January 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Plus, the vestige Amon is Amaunator. Some FR-specific vestiges were created for the class as well, in web material.
 * It seems that the 3e Binder was recreated as a Warlock variant in 4e. — BadCatMan (talk) 05:57, January 18, 2015 (UTC)