Talk:Dagult Neverember

We need some history about that guy. When was he crowned (Open) Lord of Waterdeep? How did he end up there? Was he in the Paladinson family line? Is it confirmed that he is part of Nasher's family line (Neverwinter campaign setting states that this is just what he claims to the public)? 94.68.233.202 22:19, March 3, 2012 (UTC) Shadowjim


 * The novel Blackstaff Tower explains that the Neverembers were a powerful merchant family, and that is how Dagult became the Open Lord of Waterdeep. He is not related to Piergeiron Paladinson. ➳ Quin 07:43, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Neverember's 1489 history has unsourced additions.
I can find nothing in the cited works to support the statement that Neverember or any of the Lord's Alliance had a meeting with metallic dragons. RoT states that Neverember was usurped by the 2nd council session, which is the one where Elia requests the adventurer's attendance at a draconic council. Presumably, someone had to meet with at least Elia beforehand to coordinate this, but there is no mention of a secret meeting. For all we know, the whole thing was orchestrated by Silverhand. While what is currently described (Neverember being ousted during a secret meeting with dragons) is possible, it is not necessarily true.

The only way I can think to fix this is to remove the entirety of the first few sentences regarding events in 1489DR and rewrite them with only what the source supports. I'd be happy to do it, I just wanted to check first.

Additionally, while SCAG says that Neverember was "effectively exiled", RoT still has Neverember representing Neverwinter in Council of Waterdeep meetings after his "exile". This suggests that the "exile" is perhaps informal, and that Neverwinter still goes to Waterdeep at least twice more. DotGetClass (talk) 19:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks, you're right, and it isn't very clear. To summarise, he was replaced prior to the second council session, but he was still at the second meeting. "Dagult sits to her right, alongside a human female introduced as Elia. During the council, the adventurers are introduced to the silver dragon Otaaryliakkarnos, in her human guise as Elia". The Lords then sent the adventurers to meet with the group of metallic dragons. I've tried to clear this up, but please feel free to go ahead and improve it! ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)