Template talk:Classes

Core classes
I've changed the template to currently use the "core classes" from the current iteration of Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition. In keeping with the concept of keeping the wiki "edition-neutral" I'm opening this discussion so that anyone who disagrees with this decision may speak their mind and we can, as a community decide which classes to include.

The only classes from prior editions which are missing at this point are warlords from the 4th edition Player's Handbook, swordmages from the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide, avengers, invokers, shamans, and wardens from the Player's Handbook 2, and ardents, battleminds, psions, runepriests, and seekers from the Player's Handbook 3. All of these classes were core in 4th edition, but are not currently supported in 5th and every core class from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd editions are supported in some way for 5th.

If anyone strongly wishes to include the remaining 4th edition core classes in the template, that's what this discussion is for. Please note that I've created separate templates for arcanists/mages, priests (divine spellcasters), warriors (martial classes), primal spellcasters, psionicists, and shadow spellcasters as well, so classes which aren't covered by the main class template are still included in others (including none-core classes). Niirfa-sa (talk) 00:56, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * As I alluded to in the Forum:Classes by edition, we are not really keeping the wiki "edition-neutral" but rather embracing all editions as valid roleplaying frameworks, separating out the differences mainly in the infoboxes and the categories. I would like to see all the missing classes you mentioned above included. A 4th edition player (which I am definitely not) would wonder why swordmage was not included in the list of classes, right? Why limit the viewer's choices to just 5th edition classes? Old timers will feel at home and youngsters who are starting with 5th edition will have the opportunity to discover something new. My 2 copper. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 01:40, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * That seems fair. I will consider how specifically to revise the template to include (core) 4th edition classes as well as any 1st or 2nd edition (core) classes that may have gotten left out. Niirfa-sa (talk) 05:07, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Template Update
To better format this template, I propose we remove or move all non-core classes. I would define core classes as those included in the first PHB released for each edition. Additionally, I want to include collapsible sub-sections for all Realms-linked 2e class kits and 5e class specializations.

• Ardent, psion (with battlemind and bushi subsections), runepriest, shaman, and warlord, along with Realms-specific classes of spellscarred and swordmage, will be moved to an "Other Classes" section.

• Seeker will be removed (unless a Realms connection can be found).

• Avenger and samurai will be included as subclasses of paladins and fighters respectively.

Finally, I plan to creature a second major section within the template that includes all 3e/3.5 prestige classes. These should be separated due to the fact they are not closely tied to a single core class. Ruf (talk) 14:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)