Talk:Brood spawn

Deletion?
I don't think this article necessarilly has to be deleted, as we do have the  ❌  tag for such cases. Does anyone know as to whether or not this page can and should be expanded and remain on the wiki? I am not overly familiar with the Elder evils and their spawn, and have no strong opinion, one way or the other? Ruf (talk) 12:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * This is a general reply to completely unrelated articles, not specifically for this article.


 * The ❌ tag doesn't give an excuse for any unrelated things to be added to the wiki, that is not the purpose of the tag. It's a tag to tell us it needs attention. These pages are in the same cleanup category as "Plagiarized articles", which can be fixed, or otherwise get deleted. Many of these unrelated articles can't be fixed if there exists no Realms relation, so that only leaves the latter.


 * This is made quite clear in multiple places, such as:
 * The front page,
 * "This wiki covers the rich and popular Forgotten Realms campaign setting for Dungeons & Dragons from TSR, Inc. and Wizards of the Coast, including Realmslore from [the Oriental Adventures, Al-Qadim, Maztica, The Horde, Planescape, and Spelljammmer] related settings, covering sourcebooks, novels, video games, comics, and more across all editions."


 * the scope of the wiki,
 * Other wikis: "two Dungeons & Dragons wikis, dnd-wiki.org and Dungeons.Fandom.com, aim to provide such information for D&D core elements and elements from different campaign settings." ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 14:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * and the about page.
 * The wiki's "aim is to provide an accurate reference to official Realmslore". Thus, we cover "articles on core Dungeons & Dragons information only where it pertains specifically to the Forgotten Realms."


 * In conclusion, and not just for the reasons to do with the scope of the wiki, I strongly feel as if totally unrelated pages should be removed. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 14:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I am generally okay with including unrelated items, creatures, spells, and such because those things could theoretically be somewhere in the Realms (and often, we do find connections after the fact). However, Lymic and the Brood Spawn are very much unrelated and are more like individuals- either they're related or not. The book they come from offers suggestions of where they could be located, but nothing definite. Unless they show up in 5e with a Realms connection, there is nothing connecting Lymic to the Realms. SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't say Father Llymic, brood spawn, and the rest are completely unrelated. Elder Evils has "X in Faerûn" passages (just like in the 3e monster manuals) specifically to connect them to the setting, that is, official storylines set (potentially) in the Realms, hence they're valid Realmslore and worth covering in a hypothetical sense. We've accepted past articles like this; if people want to write about it and read about it, and it's set in the Realms, then it's worthy of inclusion. That said, the "X in Faerûn" passages are usually quite short and sparse, and don't add much to the Realms otherwise, but at least the articles can exist in their own bubbles. We have the adaptation version of canon for just this reason.

And we have a number of such articles already: Jerold Keegan, Blasingdell, apocalypse from the sky (Realms-relevant only by EE adapted material), blood leech, Zakharan kraken, Boraksaghegirak, and others, while Zargon and Kyuss have found some existence outside adapted material. So any change here would affect a lot of other articles. BadCatMan (talk) 01:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm more than happy for "X in Faerûn" passages to be on this wiki and they should definitely be included, though this connection was not included in the article! My response was to Ruf's comment for the reason we use ❌ tags. Father Llymic should have an article. I'm not sure about brood spawn, as they don't have an "X in Faerûn" section, though they have a strong link with Llymic. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)