User talk:ISUBurd

Welcome!
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— BadCatMan (talk) 20:44, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

Greetings
Hi ISUBurd, I saw the changes you made to Myth Rhynn and can offer a few pointers if you'd like.

If you use a reference once, you include the full thing:

 

When you include the same reference a second time, you only have to include the front portion, along with an additional backslash as long as they are labeled exactly the same and are enclosed in quotations:

 

Also, when including links within an article you only have to include them in the first appearance of a term within that article. For example:

'''The mythal at Myth Drannor was shinier than the mythal at Myth Rhynn. However the mythal at Myth Rhynn was bigger than that of Myth Nantar.'''

Lastly if you include references like you did, those same source (under the sources header) are not necessary and can be deleted. Also, please double check that all terms are past tense, such as the "elves themselves were aware". Hope this helps! Ruf (talk) 00:13, December 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * And we strongly recommend using the Source editor. You will pick up wiki syntax much faster and be less frustrated, especially dealing with infoboxes. We do have a few Help pages. :) &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 00:26, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Thankk You
Hello, ISUB,

Just dropping in to say thank you for your edits. You are slowly but consistently fixing things here and there, and we are noticing. Thanks for making the wiki better.

~ Lhynard (talk) 17:26, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing and dropping me a line.

ISUBurd (talk) 19:01, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Slack
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Novel Articles
I saw from your user page update that you intend to expand articles related to several novels. That is exciting, because we do not have as many novel experts here these days.

If you intend to edit the novel articles themselves, I suggest that you follow the format of the Into the Void article, by having a lead section describing the book, followed by the book's "blurb". Then, add a detailed synopsis, followed by the index. When making an index, break it up into different sub-sections and use IndexLink and P so that a full alphabetical index with page numbers can be generated.

If this is beyond what you want to do, that is OK too. I just wanted you to be aware that most of our current novel pages are well below where we would like them to be.

Thanks for the great work so far.

~ Lhynard (talk) 18:36, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I was wondering how to do page numbers and hadn't seen this formatting yet. The index looks like a lot of work. I hope it will be okay if only list the page of the character's/place's/etc. 1st apprearance as that is all I have written down usually.

ISUBurd (talk) 21:22, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Appearances
Hello there. While I think you're doing a good job on the wiki in general, please be advised that Appearances sections are sorted by publication date, not alphabetically. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 16:10, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Why? Eveything else is alphabetical. I would think finding references would be much easier if listed alphabetically and not by an irrelevant date. ISUBurd (talk) 17:32, October 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * The Appearances section is a feature copied from Wookieepedia, where entries are sorted by in-universe chronology. A ton of other wikis also follow this convention. We very recently decided to use publication order. However, no matter which chronological format we use, the order illustrates the "progression" of a subject over time. If someone wanted to read all the works Liriel Baenre appears in, for example, they would be given a reasonable starting point by checking her Appearances list, and would know what to read next from that point on. This feature would not be possible if the list were alphabetically sorted. The purpose of Appearances is not simply just to provide references (we have the References and Notes sections for that).
 * Furthermore, at some point wikis do have to settle on a standard layout for their articles. It would be confusing for both readers and editors if we had different formats for different articles for no apparent reason. This wiki landed on the "Wookieepedia style" of Appearances several years ago, and it has been implemented in an overwhelming majority of our articles.
 * That is not to say it's an ideal style, or that it can't be improved upon. In fact, alphabetical sorting probably has certain merits. But changes to layout and style should be decided collectively, not arbitrarily implemented into a single article. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 08:18, October 9, 2019 (UTC)

You Rock
Huge thank you for all the work you have put into indexing the sourcebooks and novels! It has provided an invaluable resource for cross-referencing articles and finding content sources when writing new ones. It's an awesome contribution to the wiki and I hope you keep it up! --Regis87 (talk) 02:53, May 5, 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. Glad I can help. It's very tedious work sometimes, but I'm glad you can use it.ISUBurd (talk) 03:42, May 5, 2020 (UTC)

Books
Hi! Thanks for adding the book articles, but please use Template:Item/Book. It's an Item specialized for books and such.

Furthermore, please take care not to mix up the articles. I found the text of A Trader from Telflamm: My Years Amid High-Heaped Gold at The View from Secomber: Musings on the Years to Come and vice versa, which was really confusing. I've made some revisions at "A Trader from Telflamm" you could check out. — BadCatMan (talk) 06:19, June 7, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting. Must have made some copy/paste errors as I was going back an forth between several of them. Thanks for the tip on the Template. I had just copied what someone else had used for a similar reference and obviously it was not the latest template.

ISUBurd (talk) 04:39, June 8, 2020 (UTC)

Indexing Storm King's Thunder
I started the index of Storm King's Thunder when I first bought the book and got up to page 83 or so. Then I loaned the book out and never finished the index. If you'd like to take over that project, I would be grateful. No pressure, I'm just throwing it out there in case you are interested. Enjoy! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:09, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

That's a daunting task. I know how much info is in that book. I'll take a stab at it after I finish a few other indexes I've started.

ISUBurd (talk) 03:49, June 17, 2020 (UTC)

Races of Faerûn
Hey Burd thank you for continually filling gout the indexes of sourcebook pages - I feel like it is such a thankless task but oh so important. Looking at the index for Races of Faerûn, I don't believe we can/should list all the feats as that information is very much rules mechanics or "crunch". We definitely won't be able to make articles for the feats, rather we may be able to incorporate some of the lore information found within to other articles. The information about the "tattoo magic" feat can be used in a future tattoos article for example. Ruf (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC)