User talk:ThunderBrine

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Plagiarism
It is illegal to copy information directly from a sourcebook. Adding a few extra words here and there is not enough; you must rewrite the entire article in your own words.

Also, the dragonnel is not related to the Forgotten Realms, so it does not belong on our wiki anyhow.

~ Lhynard (talk) 06:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Languages
Hi. I've blocked you so I can save you unnecessary effort and talk with you first. Your new categories on language pages seem to be unnecessary, erroneous, or speculative. Please discuss such widespread changes first. I've opened conversation on the Talk pages at Category_talk:Language_isolates and Category_talk:Languages_solely_used_by_monsters.

Furthermore, please reply here to show you got these messages and understand not to plagiarize text, before I lift your block. BadCatMan (talk) 09:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I see your messages and I understand. I will discuss their contents whenever you or other users are available for discussion. ThunderBrine 10:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I've unblocked you now. BadCatMan (talk) 10:06, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Dragon lair maps
Hey there Thunderbrine! We appreciate you wanting to help contribute to the wiki, but I am afraid that your uploads of "dragon lair" maps did not fall within our wiki's jurisdiction and had to be removed. If they were maps of specific locations in the Realms, that would be good, but I'm afraid that these are just generic example lairs for use by Dungeon Masters. SunderedShor (talk) January 18, 2022.

Sea Serpent
Hi. We've had this discussion before, but as we've said, this is a Forgotten Realms Wiki and we focus on Forgotten Realms lore. The sea serpent has no Realmslore attached, either in the 5e book Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, nor in previous editions – any mention would be to the earlier sea snake. Hence, the sea serpent should be rejected. I suggest you take your article to a more general D&D wiki, like the Dungeons & Dragons Fifth Edition Wiki or the D&D Lore Wiki. BadCatMan (talk) 06:49, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Furthermore, do not include links to copies of the books, even if they're for your personal reference. The wiki cannot host or link to any copyright-infringing material. BadCatMan (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I understand. I will try to post it to a general D&D wiki. However, with that action, I have a couple of questions and concerns.
 * It should be noted that all other D&D wikis are heavily underdeveloped and do not have the resources that Forgotten Realms has. Also, what is supposed to be the D&D General wiki allows homebrew content, lowering the value of the wiki in its reliability, even if its tolerance on crunch is appreciated.
 * If it is allowed, I would like to ask if it is appropriate to transfer information from Forgotten Realms (and other D&D wikis) to the General wiki, or if such behavior is unacceptable. --ThunderBrine 09:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I'd say the obvious solution to underdeveloped wikis... is to go develop those wikis. In my experience, wikis don't grow if no one adds, and if you build it, they will come. The FRW itself was underdeveloped and light on resources for a long, long time, and it took a long, long time to develop it to the standard it has now. But the work has to start somewhere. We encourage the development of other D&D wikis, for the various settings and editions and approaches, contribute to some of them, copy over pages we've removed from here, and share what templates and knowhow we can. So you're welcome to copy your unrelated pages over and any templates you like, to an appropriate wiki of your choosing. BadCatMan (talk) 10:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Templates
(Note to self: When making a D&D wiki, follow this order. Extensions, Modules, Templates, Pages concerning source material, Pages concerning other material.)

Which Extensions allow the wiki to do all the complicated things; And which modules and templates? I know that when you create a wiki, you have a default set of extensions, but which optional extensions are the most important to Forgotten Realms's functionality? I ask because Forgotten Realms Wiki is the most developed of all D&D wikis, so I would like to know what this wiki uses so I can develop other D&D wikis to the same degree of professionalism as Forgotten Realms. --ThunderBrine 07:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * You can see all the Extensions installed on the wiki on the Special:Version page. That said, there are already D&D wikis for just about every campaign setting, so I would recommend working on one of those rather than starting a new one. Fandom is trying to reduce the number of duplicate wikis and starting a wiki on a topic that is already covered elsewhere will probably get closed. You can see the list of D&D wikis at the bottom of the Main Page. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 17:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Don't worry. I'm not trying to start a new wiki. Just trying to improve existing ones. --ThunderBrine 23:39, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Forgotten dragons
--ThunderBrine 07:54, 20 January 2022 (UTC) ⟨As you might have guessed, I still want to edit things, but as I am banned for the week, I'm stuck having to put my collected information on the talk page. If you are following my user talk page for some reason, and you got a notification, I'm sorry.⟩

Anyways, I found a database that someone made of dragons that were lost to D&D's history, so I thought it might be nice to have them around on the wiki. These dragon will likely stay in my sandbox forever if they have nothing to do with the Realms, but it's nice to keep them around anyway.

Adamantine dragon Cobalt dragon Electrum dragon #74 Mercury dragon Mithral dragon Orium dragon Chromium dragon Cobalt dragon Iron dragon Nickel dragon Steel dragon Tungsten dragon Brown dragon Grey dragon Orange dragon Purple dragon Rainbow dragon #146 Yellow dragon Pink dragon Amethyst dragon Crystal dragon Emerald dragon Obsidian dragon Sapphire dragon Topaz dragon Amber dragon Jacinth dragon Jade dragon Moonstone dragon Pearl dragon Beljuril dragon # 265 Yu lung (Carp dragon) Li lung (Earth dragon) Lung wang (Sea dragon) Shen lung (Spirit dragon) Pan lung (Coiled dragon) T'ien lung (Celestial dragon) Chiang lung (River dragon) Tun mi lung (Typhoon dragon) Adamantite dragon Arboreal dragon Astral dragon Axial dragon Battle dragon Beast dragon Blazewyrm Blight dragon Chaos dragon Chole dragon Concordant dragon Deathmask dragon Dragon eel Ectoplasmic dragon Elysian dragon Ethereal dragon Frostforged wyrm Gloom dragon Hellfire wyrm Howling dragon Mirage dragon Oceanus dragon Pact dragon Pyroclastic dragon Radiant dragon Styx dragon Tarterian dragon Tempest dragon Wretch dragon Avalanche dragon Blizzard dragon Earthquake dragon Tornado dragon Typhoon dragon Volcanic dragon Wildfire dragon Force dragon Glacierdark Gravewyrm Prismatic dragon Time dragon Amphitere # 248 Common dragonet #158 Crow's-nest dragon Draken #146 Firedrake Geyser dragon Ice Lizard Minidragon #146 Mole dragon Pavilion dragon Hex dragon Tome dragon Nameless dragon Ravening dragon Riddled dragon Spellhoarding dragon Wandering dragon Air drake Ambush drake Barathura (Spitting drake) #284 Crested Felldrake #285 Crystal drake #146 Demon drake #146 Earth drake Ermalkankari (Stone drake) #284 Faerie drake #146 Felldrake Fire drake Ice drake Magma drake Mardallond (Mead drake) #284 Ooze drake Rage drake Shadow drake #146 Smoke drake Trilligarg (Chameleon drake) #284 Vallochar (Web drake) #284 Water drake Wyvern drake #170 Desert landwyrm Forest landwyrm Hill landwyrm Jungle landwyrm Mountain landwyrm Plains landwyrm Swamp landwyrm Tundra landwyrm Underdark landwyrm Cyroserpent #44 Dracimera Dracohydra Dracolisk Draconians Dracosphinx Dracotaur Dragonnel Fire dragon #246 Gargouille #248 Hai Riyo #248 Krolli Lesser Cetus #248 Mantidrake Pleuda #248 Sirrush #248 Ssvaklor Vishap Ukuyatangi (Jungle Hydra) #31 Corpse tearer linnorm Dread linnorm Flame linnorm Forest linnorm Frost linnorm Gray linnorm Land linnorm Midgard linnorm Rain linnorm Sea linnorm Air dragon Albino wyrm #227 Aquatic dragon #134 Brainstealer dragon Cerilian dragon Cloud dragon Cobra dragon #146 Coin dragon #Annual 5 - pg48 Deep dragon Dzalmus Fang dragon Greyhawk dragon #339 Hawkdragon #101 Hoarder dragon Incarnum dragon Jabberwock #54 Mist dragon Moon dragon Night dragon #74 Paper dragon Phase dragon Rattelyr dragon Sand dragon (Wyrm?) Scintling dragon #74 Sea dragon #2 Song dragon Stellar dragon Stone dragon #134 Sun dragon Sunwyrm Ghast dragon Ghost dragon Ghoul dragon Mummy dragon Skeleton dragon Spectre dragon Vampire dragon Wight dragon Wrath dragon Zombie dragon Cave wurm Forest wurm Grassland wurm Hill wurm Lava wurm Mountain wurm River wurm Sand wurm Sea wurm Storm wurm Swamp wurm Tundra wurm
 * Metallic dragons
 * Ferrous dragons
 * Chromatic dragons
 * True Gem dragons
 * Lesser Gem dragons
 * Lung dragons
 * Planar dragons
 * Catastrophic dragons #424-425
 * Epic dragons 5
 * Dragonet 11
 * Arcane dragons
 * Psychosis dragons #313
 * Drakes
 * Landwyrms
 * Lesser dragonkin
 * Linnorm
 * Miscellaneous
 * Undead dragons #234
 * Wurms #296