Talk:Eight Million Gods

Do you intend to list every named spirit in Kara-Tur? Or would it be similar just to create Category:Members of the Eight Million Gods?

In any case, I already made an article for the Spirit of Wa and I planned to do one for the Spirit of Yakamashi Mountain, both of whom are influential in Wa's ancient history.

~ Lhynard (talk) 20:25, September 12, 2020 (UTC)


 * Did you mean 'simpler'? In any case, it depends. If the list gets too big, a link to a category would be preferable. But as some don't have names or won't have articles for a while (I'm not going to write them all, maybe just some interesting Wa-an ones for the current project), it's clearer to record them here. But I doubt it will get very unwieldy. There won't be anywhere near Eight Million's worth. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 23:46, September 12, 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I meant "simpler". :) ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:47, September 12, 2020 (UTC)


 * You know nothing is ever simpler here. :p


 * Anyway, I've added the remaining candidates from the KTCS vol. 2 to the article. My criteria were (a) being a god, goddess, deity, or major spirit, and (b) being worshiped, venerated, appeased, sacrificed to, or other propitiated by humans, korobokuru, and regular spirit folk; and (c) being associated with Wa and/or Kozakura. I'd like to put some similar Koryoan entities among them for the sake of organization, but that would be wholly speculative. There are more from the modules that can be handled later.


 * Feel free to check for yourself for any of these. Some can be a bit cryptic. Wa's Spirit of the Sun and Kozakura's Amaterasu unnamed sun goddess might be one and the same, but I have no idea. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:00, September 13, 2020 (UTC)


 * I might add the Spirits of some mountains later.


 * In the meantime, are all of the Lesser Immortals also among the Eight Million Gods, in your opinion? Because the Lesser Immortals are also an unspecified number.


 * It almost seems to me that the Eight Million Gods are not so much a true grouping as they are a religion that worships all aspects of spirits in their relationship to the Celestial Bureaucracy, whereas, in the Path of Enlightenment, the Lesser Immortals and the Spirit of Wa are not worshiped; only the aspects exemplified by the Lesser Immortals are.


 * Anyhow, we'll see what I learn over time here.


 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 16:49, September 13, 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd say no, because the Lesser Immortals have a specific status and function within the Celestial Empire/Bureaucracy in Shou Lung/T'u Lung, while the Eight Million Gods have something very different and might even be completely unrelated to the CB. I have to go back check the lore regarding the CB's jurisdiction over Wa and Kozakura.


 * In fact, this guy Yuka, a follower of the Nine Travelers/Immortals, called followers of Bishamon of Wa "heathens" with "false belief", which implies some opposition or disconnection between the Celestial Bureaucracy and the Eight Million. — BadCatMan (talk) 00:07, September 14, 2020 (UTC)

a possible one was the Earth Spider, that I had edit some time ago, it's said that he ruled over Kozakura and some place of Shou Lung.

Maybe BadCatMan check

By (Unknown user 11 (talk) 14:57, September 14, 2020 (UTC)) 


 * It's possible, but the Earth Spirit is connected with the Celestial Empire, and there's no sign of it being venerated as in this religion. So I would exclude it as this stage.


 * Anyway, I've done as much as I care to on this now. There's obviously a lot more to be said in the KTCS and the various modules, and a lot more gods and spirits, but when Swords of the Daimyo said "the Fire God, the Sun Goddess, the Goddess of Disease, the Gods of Luck and Fortune, and the Goddess of Mercy" I kind of lost interest the same way the designers did. I only wanted to know if Bishamon was one or not. — BadCatMan (talk) 07:24, September 15, 2020 (UTC)