Forgotten Realms Wiki:Featured article nominations

This page is for nominating, discussing and voting on featured articles to go on the Featured article template. An article that reaches at least 3 votes in favour, including one administrator vote, will be promoted to featured article status.

Criteria
A feature article should meet the following criteria:
 * Complete: The article should give everything about the subject. There should be a complete account from the standard sources, and common and important information should appear. It doesn't have to be utterly exhaustive, with every tidbit from every obscure source, but ideally there should be some little tidbits of lore to spice it up and surprise the expert FR fan.
 * Correct: We should be able to confirm that every fact presented is true and accurate by examining the sources. That goes hand-in-hand with...
 * Referenced: The article should be fully referenced.
 * Formatted: The article should be fully formatted in wiki article style, sectioned out, and infoboxed, with a past-tense, in-universe POV, and good English text.
 * Important: The article should be on a reasonably well-known topic that ties into the larger setting, comes from multiple sources, or is just famous to readers.
 * Big: A medium-to-long article demonstrates completeness, and short ones are too easy to make look good.
 * Illustrated: Pictures and quotes really spice up the article, breaking up walls of text, and make it look good. It also stands out on the main page.
 * Demonstrative: The article should demonstrate all appropriate practices, policies, templates, and wiki code to budding editors. It should also demonstrate our usefulness to players and DMs (for example, presenting a fully developed community to play in or NPC to deal with). It could also demonstrate how to balance lore from different editions and media.

Nomination Form
Please nominate an article in the following format: ===Article Name=== ;Nominated by: ;Disclaimer: ;Vote: ;For: ;Against: ;Pros: * ;Cons: * ;Requests * ;Verdict:
 * Article Name
 * The name of the nominated article. This should be a direct link to the article.


 * Nominated by
 * The editor who originally nominated the article for feature status.


 * Disclaimer
 * Please note if you wrote the article yourself or otherwise had a strong hand in it.


 * Vote
 * The current score. Please add 1 if you are for it, subtract 1 if you are against it.


 * For
 * List your name here if in favor.


 * Against
 * List your name if in not in favor.


 * Pros
 * Give a dot-point list of reasons why the article should be featured.


 * Cons
 * Give a dot-point list of reasons why the article should not be featured.


 * Requests
 * List anything you feel should be done to the article that would make improve and/or make it worthy of featured status.


 * Verdict
 * The final result of the vote: 'approved' to be a featured article; 'pending' or blank if it's still under discussion; or 'refused' if it's currently irredeemable without major reworking. The verdict will be decided by an administrator after thorough checking.

Voting Process
For Nominated, For, and Against, just list your user name: User:__. For Pros, Cons, and Requests, give a reason following by a short signature (three tildes ).

You may change your vote if you are satisfied by changes to an article, or find some problem with it. Please relocate your name to the correct category, update the current vote tally, and note the change somewhere.

Extensive discussion of requested work on an article should be taken to that article's Talk page.

Vhaeraun‎

 * Nominated by
 * Regis87


 * Disclaimer
 * Vote
 * 4
 * 4


 * For
 * Moviesign, Possessed Priest, Sirwhiteout, Artie


 * Against


 * Pros
 * A massive, detail-heavy article. Lots of hard work put into it by various users. &mdash;Regis87 (talk)
 * Agreed. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * A popular topic among fans, I believe. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Already good article quality. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Incredibly well documented, over 200 sources. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:11, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Good range of images, symbols and quotes. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:11, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * All important links have associated pages (small amount of red links). ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:11, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * The infobox image is low resolution. &mdash;Regis87 (talk)
 * Generally, low-resolution files are required, because of copyright, but in this case, it is indeed a poor-quality scan, so, yes, the image should be replaced. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Changed the picture with a not enlarged one to lower resolution. May I ask whether it is alright? Saya222 (talk) 19:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yea looks much better! --Regis87 (talk) 20:34, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * agreed ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yea looks much better! --Regis87 (talk) 20:34, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * agreed ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Infobox uses a confusing mix of refs in the headings and in the text. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * I hope, that it is solved. May I ask whether it is still confusing?19:32, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, much better; thanks! ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * ToC is too long.
 * This can be fixed by using  for 4-level headers instead of  . ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Done.19:32, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Quote boxes aren't being used properly.
 * They are not meant for excerpts from novels in an out-of-universe fashion; they should be for quotes in an in-universe fashion. The source field should not be listing a book; it should be giving a speaker, followed by a typical reference footnote. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * I hope, it's solved now. I kept it to quotes where characters are actually speaking or thinking. May I ask whether that is alright?19:32, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * There are still a few issues with them, which I can fix myself. I'll try to do that a bit later. Thanks for putting in the work so far! ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Thank you very much for looking over.
 * Saya222 (talk) 04:50, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed them up. The points to keep in mind are:
 * They should only be from a single speaker&mdash;no conversations.
 * They should not have quotes; those are added automatically.
 * They should be "in-universe".
 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation.19:13, June 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Some of the punctuation/style is not correct/standard for an article here, particularly in the headings.
 * For example, all the hyphens should be colons or en-dashes or em-dashes. It would be better to remove them altogether. Instead of a heading of "Relationships - Allies", just have "Allies". Some of the headings are not needed at all, such as the subheadings for all the different ability types. Just keep them in separate paragraphs. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * I found out, that "wasn't" and "weren't" were used and corrected it. But that was certainly the most minor of problems. May I ask what other style-policies were offended? I guess a grammar problem is meant with punctuation problems. I will try to figure and solve them.19:32, May 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * I was actually OK with the contractions, although they aren't often used in formal writing, that trend in English seems to be going away. It actually was nothing to do with grammar; I meant punctuation/style. These are also things that I can clean up on my own. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Thank you very much.
 * Saya222 (talk) 04:50, May 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * I performed a thorough copy-edit. There were actually a lot more grammatical issues than I had noticed at first, but no worries! ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for correcting them.19:13, June 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * In the notes, avoid links such as "here" and "this question". A webpage should always be explicit in link text. Provide the name of the location of the link and provide the text of the actual question asked. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * Tsammarco was so kind to do it.
 * Saya222 (talk) 19:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)


 * Much of information is repeated in multiple sections. ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Too much detail for my taste in some places&mdash;for example, letting us know an assortment of his key spells would suffice; there is no need to go through so many spells explaining what he can do with them, since that information is easily found elsewhere and is the same for any one else. Nevertheless, I am no longer against this becoming a featured article&mdash;in fact, I just awarded it GA status&mdash;but it is too wordy and overly detailed for me to consider it one of the wiki's very best in its current state. My preference&mdash;but I am only one person!&mdash;is that our very best articles be both complete and concise. That being said, it has clearly received a lot of great work from two editors. Thank you and good work! ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. So it means, the next tasks would be to:
 * cut the stuff that could be read on the linked pages like the passage "cast disguise self, nondetection, invisibility, and mislead, ... to become invisible while leaving a decoy" despite having the spell appear on the head of the Ability-section?
 * adding general information like an explanation for Remote Sense owned by all deities on a page and cut it from the Vhaeraun page, adding a passage like see also deity#Abilities#Remote Sense ?
 * If I'm correct I could try it out, though it would take some time.
 * Saya222 (talk) 19:13, June 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Minor change needed: Some titles missing references. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 12:11, May 12, 2019 (UTC)


 * Requests
 * Add any 1e information, if it exists, especially to the infobox. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * There is no mention of Vhaeraun in Deities & Demigods 1st edition, Manual of the Planes 1st edition, or Unearthed Arcana 1st edition. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 23:14, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Convert Drow pantheon to our new format. ~ Lhynard (talk)
 * I changed it to the format of the elven and gnome pantheon. May I ask whether it was the right one?Saya222 (talk) 18:33, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! ~ Lhynard (talk) 18:46, June 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Verdict

Saurial

 * Nominated by: Artie
 * Disclaimer: Should be complete. Fully expanded it. Might need a proof-read.
 * Vote: 3
 * For: Artie, BadCatMan, SilverTiger12, Ruf67
 * Against: Possessed Priest
 * Pros:
 * Mostly complete. - Artyom.pavlov (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Good article in terms of content that shows off wiki features: quotes, images, gallery, appendix ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Missing very minor details from Finder's Bane re: fauna and Finder's temple description. - Artyom.pavlov (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Content is good, but the article is very untidy and has many mistakes:
 * The links to the subraces within the article point straight back to the article. Is this here for future pages that will be made in the near future? Ok if so. If not, please remove the links, as they just directly users back to the same page. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 16:46, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Missing many links, even basic ones. For example, no link to armor, spell, soul, hemp, etc. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Lots of typos or incorrect place / person names, i.e., Lost vale vs Lost Vale, Bladebback vs Bladeback, Flyers vs Fliers. If this is a legitimate alternative, please add it to the part about the subrace in the Description section. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Very many links are not in the correct order (mostly, only the first mention should be linked). For example, sub-types (not linked in first instances), neither is Grypht, saurials' native tongue, Moander, paladin,Lost Vale, Dragonbait, Kara-Tur, etc, are repeatedly linked unnecessarily. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Please fix the issues above not just for the examples given, as they are examples only. Every time I come back to check this article, only the ones I've pointed out have been fixed. Please check the whole article. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 16:46, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The Lost Vale map is very small, I can't make out any of the text. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is confusing in places. It says "Fly (Flyer)" in the infobox before mentioning what a "Flyer" is. A casual reader would probably assume that saurials can fly. This should be cleared up. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Grammar and general flow needs major improvement (copy-edit requested below). For example, in the second section, first paragraph: "The possessed natural resistance to sound-based attacks, that included shout spell, and harpy's charm ability. And saurials were naturally vulnerable to gas-based attacks and effects, such as cloudkill or gaseous poisons." None of these sentences make sense do me. Do you mean "The possessed" -> "They possessed", "that included shout spell", what does this mean? "And saurials" is an odd start to a sentence. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Formatting is incorrect in a few places (quotes shouldn't be italic). ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Some individual sentences repeat citations, i.e., Sentence 1.[14] Sentence 2.[14] Sentence 3.[14] -- It can just be Sentence 1. Sentence 2. Sentence 3.[14] ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Consider making tables for subraces in the infobox. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sub-appendix order is incorrect and needs tidying. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Connections should come last, not references. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Further Reading needs to be removed, as The Complete Book of Humanoids is already in the references. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Cleaned, rephrased, removed redundant sentences, organized links. However, tables in the inbox is beyond my skill. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Requires a major copy-edit. However, The OP should fix some basic issues before requesting a copy-edit. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it would be nice if the article also included information on Malatran lacerials, keeping the footnote about the legalese, but in-universe treating that as just a different name for the same species. Daranios (talk) 18:21, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That footnote was leftover from before I expanded. I don't have access to those Polyhedron issues so it's out of my hands. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 18:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Two documents with information about lacerials that I know of are available as pdfs online, The Living Jungle Campaign: Player Information Guide and The Jungle Book of Malatra. I don't know their relation to the Polyhedron articles, though. Daranios (talk) 20:09, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Did a quick scan through the first one - they appear to be completely identical to saurials, different in name only. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 20:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Good to know - I am not too familiar with either the saurials or Malatra. But in that case, some mention of the lacerials' presence in Malatra (and possibly local relationships) would be nice, even if this is a tangential aspect. Daranios (talk) 12:04, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Verdict:
 * I did a full proofread, clarified some statements, and reduced some wordier parts. BadCatMan (talk) 11:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Removed a few of the extraneous links and removed one repeated line. Added fourth 'For' vote. Ruf (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Cyric

 * Nominated by
 * Ruf67


 * Disclaimer
 * Ruf67 added significant work to this article.


 * Vote
 * 1


 * For
 * Ruf67


 * Against
 * Pros
 * An expansive article about one of the most important Forgotten Realms characters and deities. Ruf (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thoroughly referenced using sources from nearly every type of media across 4 editions. Ruf (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Proofread by BadCatMan. Ruf (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Proofread by BadCatMan. Ruf (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


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