Talk:Selvetarm

In the novel Condemnation Selvetarm appears "clutch[ing] an armory of swords and maces in its six thickly muscled arms, and each of its chitinous legs ended in a vicious pincerlike claw. [His] face, perversely enough, was that of a handsome drow male." (chapter 20) should this multi-armed bipedal form be mentioned? Doonval ti bekk&#39;har (talk) 02:12, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, that would go under Manifestations. Feel free to try putting it in. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:37, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Question
About the scene, where it is discovered, that Lolth organized Selvetarm's death. What part about it, actually left doubt, that she actually did so? Saya222 (talk) 16:30, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * To me it seemed more that Lolth was willing to sacrifice Selvetarm, than actually wanting to lose him. Supposedly, she took a big risk, because by losing Selvetarm she wanted to let Eilistraee take her other adversaries, but it was indeed a big risk, and things could have gone in any way. She couldn't know, for example, that Eilistraee would have defeated Vhaeraun (odds are actually against Eilistraee in such a conflict), she only later learned about Vhaeraun's plan, and she couldn't have known that Eilistraee wouldn't have tried to save Selvetarm (if Finder can resist Moander's corruption, then Selvetarm can be freed from Zanassu in theory). Besides, Vhaeraun--given his character as described in DD--wouldn't be likely to charge headstrong into Arvandor trying to kill his sister; he is actually more likely to propose a temporary cooperation to her to defeat Lolth (in DD it is said that he is very well capable of putting hostilities aside when it comes to kill his mother), and IMO things would have gone like that, if Lisa Smedman and Phil Athans had respected even a little the actual lore of the characters. So, she would have found not only Eilistraee, but Eilistraee+Vhaeraun against her. She also couldn't have known that Kiaransalee would have attacked Eilistraee rather than Lolth herself (in fact, that made absolutely no sense, tbh. Kiaransalee has a lot of things to exact vengeance for against Lolth). It was indeed just a huge risk taken by Lolth, who was willing to sacrifice Selvetarm, and then she claimed that things went as intended. Hope this clarifies


 * On a side note, when I write that Lolth claimed to have planned it, that's not excluding that she actually did so. That's saying that she may have done it, as well as that she may have simply be willing to take a risk and then things played out in her favor--Tsammarco (talk) 23:28, March 26, 2017 (UTC)