Talk:Code Helm

In-universe date
Why is the date on this page 1359 DR? I couldn't find this date on the sources mentioned. Since Spelljammer is in 2nd edition, I would guess that, as was discussed here, its lore on the Realms would be situated around the Time of Troubles, or 1367 DR.

Alternatively, if one goes chronologically by release date, p.23 of Realmspace, which was published in 1991, cites the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, whose setting date is 1357 DR. The 2nd-edition boxed set would only be released in 1993. Is there another source (maybe a Spelljammer-specific one) that says otherwise? &mdash; Sirwhiteout (talk) 06:08, January 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * The 2e sourcebooks have a wide range of dates. Gold & Glory, which mentions Code Helm, is thought to be set between 1361 and 1364. It was published after Realmspace, so the year for Realmspace is probably before that range.


 * Nevertheless, 1359 seems too specific for me, and I'm not sure exactly why it was chosen.


 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 12:17, January 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * Realmspace mentions the Time of Troubles, so it has to be later than that. It also says on p. 52 that Elminster has been visiting Ed Greenwood for 15 years. I don't know if this could be used for dating Realmspace. Daranios (talk) 13:29, January 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the insights. The specific mention of the Time of Troubles in Realmspace is probably as close as we're going to get. So instead of pinning down a specific year in the Glyth page (and perhaps this one), I guess one can just say that Code Helm had a base there "during the Time of Troubles". Thoughts? &mdash; Sirwhiteout (talk) 21:39, January 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * I prefer "in the late 14 century DR"; the other sounds more limiting. ~ Lhynard (talk) 21:45, January 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * But that includes the Spellplague. How about "mid-14th century"? &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 01:33, January 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * I like "mid-14 century" as well. Seems like a good compromise and has the advantage of covering both 1st and 2nd edition stuff. &mdash; Sirwhiteout (talk) 02:51, January 22, 2018 (UTC)