Talk:Ettin

Deletion
I checked the MM and deleted the copied text. Better that this be a stub until we have a better summary, right?Wanderscribe (talk) 17:35, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Good work, Wander... the page has been cleaned :) Darkwynters (talk) 17:59, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Height-weight proportion
On an unrelated note, the weight given in the Monster Manual is ridiculously bad. At 13 feet tall, 5200 lbs is proportional to a 5-foot-9 human weighing over 1,000 lbs. A 13 foot tall human would weigh about 700 (female) to 850 (male) lbs. Just sayin. :P Wanderscribe (talk) 17:44, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * How do you figure? A 13-foot-tall human would be 2.26 times taller than a 5'9" human, so his or her volume and mass would likely be 11.56 times larger (2.26 cubed), so the weight could easily be in the couple thousands, assuming a 5'9" male weighing 170 lbs. A heavy male human&mdash;such as a wrestler&mdash;can easily weigh 250 pounds, and this would take us up to almost 3,000 pounds. All of this assumes a human physiology, but giants are not humans and have super strong muscles and denser bodies. Ettins also have two heads, and heads are one of the heaviest parts of a body.


 * As a rule, 3e did a much better job with creature weights as far as making them realistic. 2e had a male ettin at between 940 and 1,030 pounds, but this is far too light to be physically believable.


 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 20:55, November 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * Returning to this years later: the tallest human ever was just short of 9 feet tall. He weighed 440 pounds—at his death—and he was very lanky and thin. That's about 1.5 times my height but 2.75 times my mass. I hope that you can see that your 850 pound human figure doesn't follow the pattern. ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:10, July 30, 2020 (UTC)