Talk:Sons of Gruumsh

Okay. So why has this article been deemed non-canonical? It's been published and that's the only real criteria needed to be met. -hash


 * I've removed that template. Fw190a8 15:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I have to put the non-canon template back on this page. Why? Look at Wookieepedia canon information for my reasons. In a word (or so) canon means it actually happened in the Realms and "real" characters as in characters that have been published are involved. If the main goodguy is someone invented, which is Sons of Gruumsh's purpose, then it is not canon. Cell4 02:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely disagree with that reasoning, as much of Forgotten Realms information is published in an "adventure" type setting, that obviously won't star the PCs. This adventure module covers NPCs and brings into existance a ruined keep near the borders of Thar.  The existance of a "goodguy" within the product, shouldn't be any kind of litmus test for determining something to be canon. Such a division within the Star Wars community is likely from the two types of fans.  One side being all about the books and movies, while the other are those that embrace the d20 Star Wars system.  Forgotten Realms doesn't have such an environment.  Wenin 05:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with Wenin and Hash here. Hell even those god-awful novelizations of the BG series are considered canon. Johnnyriot999 05:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I just gave the adventure module a once over, and there is a lot material within the module that discusses families that live within Melvaunt. It establishes an orc horde that is building north of Melvaunt.  Confirms the existance of an Orc Kingdom that existed in the past of Thar.  Goes as far as to name the orc king, King Kursk One-Tusk.  I'm asking that the tag be removed by an admin again. Wenin 06:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)