User talk:Moviesign/Template:State

Remove Template
Are there any States that cannot also be treated as Locations? Can we merge this template with Location? Thoughts? Concerns? &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:31, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Still wondering if anyone has any input on this. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 17:59, April 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * Movie, I have been wondering about this for ages... I vote we remove the States template... too confusing. - Darkwynters (talk) 21:30, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Well, a State is a political thing and only incidentally a Location. If I move the missing parts of this template into Location, will it make that template too cumbersome? I'll play around with it and give folks a chance to vote on it. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 00:48, April 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * What I might suggest is a sort of object-oriented outlook for something like this. We could code up the templates so that State used and expanded the core information found in Location. Does that make sense? ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:00, April 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm looking into making one template a pass-through to the other, or combining them if the differences aren't too great. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:29, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Things that will probably change. Speak up if you disagree or have suggestions. There may be more as I dig deeper. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 14:14, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * "Area" renamed to "Region" to avoid confusion with "Size".
 * "Allegiances" moved from Society section to Political section.
 * Renamed "Rulers" to "Heads of State"
 * Moved ruler1–5 and rulertable to the History section
 * Removed "Succeeded by" and perhaps "Preceded by", as they will be handled by the rulertable
 * EDIT: Nope, these are actually for the State that preceded/followed the subject of the article, not rulers.
 * Moving Population history to the History section.
 * Combining "Founded" and "Established".
 * Combining "Destroyed" and "Disestablished".
 * "Ruler's Type" or "Head of State"? I like Head of State.
 * Events/rulers are "normally" on the left with dates on the right for Locations, but State did it in reverse. Compare Waterdeep with Silverymoon. Keep it that way?


 * Okay, the first pass is about done. See User:Moviesign/Waterdeep for a test page with somewhat bogus data. I tried combining the templates so that Location took all the parameters that State used, with the modifications noted above (and please comment on the questions raised). Now is the time to give your suggestion and express your opinions, before the ink dries. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 04:49, April 23, 2015 (UTC)