Talk:Marrashi

Which Great Wheel Outer Plane?
When the marrash were introduced in Assassin Mountain, they were said to hail from the Outer Planes, but not which one. Does anyone know if any source places them in any specific Great Wheel Outer Plane(s)? Given that The Grand History of the Realms puts them into the Barrens of Doom and Despair, I would place them (at least) into Gehenna. That would also fit their alignment. Monster Manual II 3rd edition lets them speak Infernal, the language of Baator, but the yugoloth of Gehenna use that language also, and I think Gehenna does not have a separate language, so that would not be a contradiction. Daranios (talk) 21:39, February 6, 2019 (UTC)


 * The Player's Guide to Faerûn says they hang out in Heliopolis. See page 157. The Fiendish Codex II: Tyrants of the Nine Hells says they are a type of lesser devil, so that would imply the Nine Hells. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 22:21, February 6, 2019 (UTC)


 * I found another reference for you, but it simply puts them in the Outer Planes. They are indeed lawful evil, which makes them sound like devils, and Fiendish Codex II calls them as much, so that puts them in the Nine Hells, as Movie suggested. Of course, devils are not limited to the Nine Hells. ~ Lhynard (talk) 13:59, February 7, 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello Daranios,


 * the Planar Handbook mentions the Marrashi on page 191 as denizens of Baator. On a unrelated note about the name of this article, the Monster Manual II 3rd edition says "Marrashi" is the plural and not the singular. May I ask whether Assassin Mountain, the source that is quoted, says otherwise?


 * Best regards


 * Saya222 (talk) 17:39, February 7, 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for all the input, now I can sort the categories out (I want to get rid of Category:Creatures found in the Outer Planes in the long run, as it has long been replaced by two category intersection for the respective cosmologies).
 * Assassin Mountain indeed clearly states that marrashi is singular, and marrash is plural. Daranios (talk) 20:38, February 7, 2019 (UTC)


 * 3e has a bad habit of butchering the proper plurals of words. In this case, I ruled that it was an error, not a modernized spelling. In the languages of both Zakhara and Calimshan, the -i ending is singular and the plural removes that ending. Compare djinni, efreeti, etc. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:33, February 7, 2019 (UTC)