Talk:Kara-Tur

My GOD this article is ugly *twitches* Zerak-Tul 03:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have attempted to clean this article up as best I can. The main problems were caused by copying directly from Wikipedia, and the out-of-game stance the article took. Fw190a8 02:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Kara-Tur&action=edit

To do list
There is still quite a lot of work required as a result of the cleanup of this article. Please cross these off as necessary!

Locations

 * Summary and main article for Kozakura
 * Summary and main article for Malatra
 * Summary and main article for T'u Lung
 * Summary and main article for Wa

List of source material
Write List of source material on Kara-Tur

Prestige classes

 * Write articles for each prestige class
 * There are some further prestige classes commented out in the wiki code that need checking

I added a bit on the page for Shou Lung; it was from wikipedia but at least its something. Should we be including references to real-world countries though? Johnnyriot999 08:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Old Wikipedia data

 * Because it would too much work for me alone;
 * Because I worked so much on the Wikipedia entries;
 * Because I believe my intense researches are still of use (especially the labourously collected external links);
 * Because I do not know enough of the forgottenrealms Wikia lore to dare or wish to intervene directly anymore,

I just paste in the permalink of what I believe to be most exhaustive Wikipedia entry on the topic:

Most complete permalink for Kara-Tur

(starting point: Geographical index of Toril on 18th of March 2007)

Could some kind soul take care of extracting the data somewhere it would not be deleted again because of “lack of notability”? Note that a lot of content may be duplicate and also has to be rewritten. Some link shouls also be checked (think archive.org] if nothing else), Wizards of the Coast not being that serious with permanency of data.

David Latapie (✒ | @) 12:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Fanonicity
Kara-tur Map at the top contains Fanon.
 * What is Fanon?--192.44.63.165 11:38, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * From TFWiki: "[Fanon] refers to so-called "facts" that a significant number of fans think are true, but for which there is no evidence in any official material. "


 * Or fanon can be fan-made lore that many fans accept, either believing it to be canon, or just because they like it.
 * In any case, all the maps on this page currently come from popular fan mapmaker Markustay, here. We've generally accepted them for their high quality and accuracy, with his permission, but try not to let some of his non-canon additions slip it. It's a bit difficult rooting them out though. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:14, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, be sure to check Mark's maps for canonicity as he likes to merge aspects from other game worlds into his FR maps. I recently came across some other fan-made maps that are also top quality bon't don't seem to include any fanon. I'll upload them in a bit. -hashtalk 14:33, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Overhaul
I've started work outlining an overhaul for the Kara-Tur article. The article as it stands is too verbose in the areas that it has, and completely lacking content otherwise. I plan to include new sections, like how they are in typical wikipedia-style continent articles, such as demographics, history, geography and climate, economy, definition and boundaries, and culture. These will all eventually have their own respective full articles that will be linked to, but initially they will be dead links.

As this little project goes forward, please reply to this topic with any questions/comments/concerns. I shouldn't need much help, but if you already have work done, we should definitely collaborate to save time.

As a person who lives for lore, content is important to me, but also accessibility. I aim for the pages I edit to have just enough information to be convenient and informative, with the option to view more if desired. Yes, this leads to more work and more articles, but there is a boat-load of information to be recorded. Even for a small topic like the currency of Kara-Tur could easily fill a small article of its own, so that is the intention. As a DM, having quick access to short info and quick access to detailed info is important for making a good story.

Let me know if any of you are particularly attached to any part of the article or its children. I don't want to step on any toes.

Want to watch my progress? Check out Sandbox:Kara-Tur Overhaul.

Kukudush (talk) 20:30, March 18, 2018 (UTC)