Talk:Succubus

Copyrights and the d20 license
As per Zerak-Tul's comment on the update he made--"maybe make a creature template to fill info like that into it?"--I don't believe we are allowed to provide statistic blocks or other "crunchy" details from D&D publications. As far as I understand, it's all right to detail the lore of the Forgotten Realms provided the original text is used for research rather than directly copied. I believe anything like statistic blocks in the Standard Reference Documents would be all right, but since only a limited number of basic creatures appear here, it would limit the scope of a creature template containing a full statistic block. Fw190a8 14:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Devil and demon?
Is the Succubus a demon and devil? Should it get the demon box? Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  00:07, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well apparantly from what I hear the Succubus in 4th edition has undergone a switch of allegiances from the Demons to the Devils. This is yet another case of edition-clash. The problem is that the 3E is of course canonical because according to the chronology of the forgotten realms the 4E is the future while the 3E is the past.

So the Succubus were demons and are now devils according to an allegance shift that has yet be disclosed, presumably during the transition event (the spellplague) they defected en-masse. Because these are 'spiritual' beings unlike with mortals their basic 'biological' nature can also shift as a result of changing factions.

So yes they should get the demon box because they were for most of the realms history demons. This is a pretty unique situation as there are not any other creatures whose racial status actually shifted en-masse over time. However in some manner the shift between the two should be explained in the article. --Slayer of Cliffracers 20:30, October 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Slayer, excellently written and very informative... I hope you will continue editing this wiki :) Darkwynters 20:59, October 26, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Very well written indeed! as my wynters said it would be lovely to have to editing the wiki as well!^^ So please stick around and help out with the wiki! Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  10:09, October 27, 2011 (UTC)