Forum:Classes by edition

{{forum post| Movie, I love the ref tag on the edition line... looks great :)

Base classes

 * Barbarians (1e)
 * Cavaliers (1e)
 * Clerics (1e)
 * Druids (1e)
 * Fighters (1e)
 * Magic-users (1e)
 * Illusionists (1e)
 * Monks (1e)
 * Paladins (1e)
 * Rangers (1e)
 * Thieves (1e)
 * Assassins (1e)
 * Thief-acrobats (1e)

Base classes

 * Bards (2e)
 * Clerics (2e)
 * Druids (2e)
 * Fighters (2e)
 * Paladins (2e)
 * Rangers (2e)
 * Thieves (2e)
 * Wizards (2e)
 * Abjurers (2e)
 * Conjurers (2e)
 * Diviners (2e)
 * Enchanters (2e)
 * Illusionists (2e)
 * Invokers (2e)
 * Necromancers (2e)
 * Transmuters (2e)

Base classes

 * Ardents (3e)
 * Barbarians (3e)
 * Bards (3e)
 * Beguilers (3e))
 * Clerics (3e)
 * Dragon shamans (3e
 * Druids (3e)
 * Duskblades (3e)
 * Favoured souls (3e)
 * Fighters (3e)
 * Hexblades (3e)
 * Knights (3e)
 * Ninja (3e)
 * Paladins (3e)
 * Rangers (3e)
 * Rogues (3e)
 * Samurai (3e)
 * Scouts (3e)
 * Shugenja (3e)
 * Sorcerers (3e)
 * Spellthieves (3e)
 * Spirit shamans (3e)
 * Swashbucklers (3e)
 * Wizards (3e)
 * Abjurers (3e)
 * Conjurers (3e)
 * Diviners (3e)
 * Enchanters (3e)
 * Illusionists (3e)
 * Evokers (3e)
 * Necromancers (3e)
 * Transmuters (3e)
 * Warlocks (3e)
 * Warmages (3e)
 * Wu-jen (3e)
 * Divine minds (3e)
 * Lurks (3e)
 * Monks (3e)
 * Psions (3e)
 * Egoists (3e)
 * Kineticists (3e)
 * Nomads (3e)
 * Seers (3e)
 * Shapers (3e)
 * Telepaths (3e)
 * Psychic warriors (3e)
 * Soulknives (3e)
 * Wilders (3e)

NPC classes

 * Adepts (3e)
 * Aristocrats (3e)
 * Commoners (3e)
 * Experts (3e)
 * Warriors (3e)

Base classes

 * Ardents (4e)
 * Avengers (4e)
 * Barbarians (4e)
 * Bards (4e)
 * Battleminds (4e)
 * Clerics (4e)
 * Druids (4e)
 * Fighters (4e)
 * Invokers (4e)
 * Monks (4e)
 * Paladins (4e)
 * Psions (4e)
 * Rangers (4e)
 * Rogues (4e)
 * Runepriests (4e)
 * Seekers (4e)
 * Shamans (4e)
 * Sorcerers (4e)
 * Swordmages (4e)
 * Wardens (4e)
 * Warlocks (4e)
 * Warlords (4e)
 * Wizards (4e)

NPC classes

 * Artillery (4e)
 * Brutes (4e)
 * Controllers (4e)
 * Lurks (4e)
 * Minions (4e)
 * Skirmishers (4e)
 * Soldiers (4e)

Personally, if we have classes listed and the edition... we do not need a multiclass tag, most gamers know a 2e fighter plus a wizard is a fighter/mage...

Aaaaaah, BadCat wants the broad parent back... cool... hmmm, but what about weird classes such as hexblades or swashbucklers... are they fighters... rogues??? Oh, wait... I think I read this wrong... you mean, have a fighters cat for actual fighters... so Hexblades (3e) would be in a Hexblades category... I think it works for classes which have crossed editions, but Hexblades are only from 3e, unless they are in 4e... on the other hand, I have no problem with having extra categories :)

Quick idea names: Class-ed table, Ed-class table, Edition table, Class-cat table (Oh, that's Movie's idea, hehe), or Edition-cat table
 * &mdash;Darkwynters (talk) 17:52, July 24, 2013 (UTC)}}

{{Forum post| Multiclass and Hybrid: No! That way lies madness! :o

Yes, prestige class will have quite variable plurals. Like Hammer of Moradin to Hammers of Moradin. But as I've said, there's too few of most to do anything but handle them case by case.

Hmm. A reference for each each edition might be best best handled by the old "source" line: "source1e", "source2e", "source3e", "source4e". Sound okay? Ah, you've solved it. Looks good.

Seeking out " {{Person " and changing " {{split table " to " {{class table " would be pretty easy.

A default value for edition? It would be difficult for us to swiftly render old pages into the new format. Perhaps a default value to express "edition not specified" could catch the pages, then we could go through the categories later.

What would the final {{tl|class table}} template look like with the edition parameter? I could probably stick in a default edition parameter with the bot. It would be difficult to choose a specific edition though, but I might be able to seek out a rules = 2nd line and then have it include edition=2e. That depends on if I can get the bot to skip any number of spaces between "rules" and "=". I'm not sure about that yet.

Yes, "Fighters" containing Fighters of all editions. Hexblades: stuff 'em, they're not a core class, and their won't be many of them.
 * — BadCatMan (talk) 13:46, July 25, 2013 (UTC)}}

{{forum post| Hehe, the Multiclass/Hybrid idea was mainly for DW's benefit. Psych! :D

I agree we should not attempt automatic prestige/paragon/epic categorization, but that means putting only the base class link in the new class table (but something like  would be acceptable). I would have to put more logic into the template if you want "Hammer of Moradin" to be a link as well.

I chose to call the new parameters refs1e etc. because they will be full &lt;ref&gt; tags whereas "source" was traditionally used as just a link to a sourcebook. If no one has any objections, I will add this functionality to the {{tl|Person}} template and maybe the {{tl|Spell}} template too.

As shown in a previous paragraph, the edition parameter is best specified just after the template name, but technically can go anywhere in the argument list. Setting it to XX would place all bot-edited pages into the Fighters of Nth level (XX) and Fighters (XX) categories, using "Fighter" for example.
 * &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 14:31, July 25, 2013 (UTC)}}