User talk:Darkwynters

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Timeline for Merging Articles
Hey, I've had a merge tag on Vil Adanrath for over a month, and no one has responded with any reasons not to merge.
 * What's the protocol for how long we wait before merging?
 * Is merging up to the admins? or is it something anyone can do?
 * If the latter, I forget how. (It's been ages since I've done one on Wikipedia.)

~ Lhynard (talk) 03:19, January 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, Lhyn it appears they are a tribe of lythari, so I have added info from that page. - Darkwynters (talk) 19:49, January 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * Great; thanks for the fix.


 * I'm still curious about my questions in general though.


 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 20:04, January 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry... I think anyone can merge an article... just move the info from one page to the next and create a redirect or put a deletion tag on the article... there might be a fancier way, maybe admin Movie know :) - Darkwynters (talk) 05:34, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Nighthill complaint
And, what's so wrong with the article I wrote on Nighthill? It wasn't pulled directly, word for word from the source material, and it was original enough so that nobody should have made the slightest complaint. I don't see anybody else going out of their way to write articles for this site that complaints should be made. The articles are well-written and researched, by someone who was playing D&D years before most of the complainers were even born. As for the image of the Ring of Protection, I seriously doubt that the company that sells it will be filing any copyright infringements, as it probably leads to more sales. Ditto for Wizards of the Coast, who in fact, issued an Open Gaming License for all of the Core Rules. The people at WoTC know that if they tick off the fans enough, they lose business, which is counterproductive.

I did NOT start writing articles to step on anybody's toes: I saw several requests from the editors urging people to write articles for this site, so I did! Then, out of four articles I wrote, three had complainers, that I didn't read all the way through some list of rules for submission, as if this were a professional magazine like Time or People. If you're going to request people to write for you, practically begging people to write for you, you have NO right to complain about it, especially if the material is well-written by someone who KNOWS the worlds he's writing in. Geoffryn Kaladon (talk) 06:38, February 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * The Tarbaw Nighthill article has a few things which need to be completed to make it clean...


 * 1) The page does not have in-text citations.
 * 2) The article is not organized, for example, what is Tarbaw's personality or how does he look... I cannot just look at the page and know... I have to read the entire piece.
 * 3) The citation is not written in the correct format.
 * 4) There is no reference for the image presented... is it copyrighted?
 * 5) The quote is not taken directly from the cited source... thus it is homebrewed.
 * 6) It appears to be written in third person present as if I am standing on the battlements with Tarbaw, which is extremely confusing, because our wiki is like an encyclopedia.
 * 7) There is no Green Keep... I am actually DMing this adventure and the keep is just called... Keep.
 * 8) Finally, my band of heroes are a drow, a half-elf druid, and a barbarian... and someone else might have a dragonborn or some other hero... so having a boy wizard and an old dwarf paladin (Cool as they sound) makes this part homebrew as well.

These might be over-the-top, so feel free to ask High admin BadCat or Admin Movie if I am being too picky :)

This wiki is a group of editors and admins who love the Realms and want to preserve the awesomeness that Ed Greenwood created... think of us as researchers... we rewrite the words, but we use the actual sourcebook's facts...

Geoffryn, you write this article like a DM describing a fantastic battle to his players... and while it sounds wonderful... it is not what this wiki is about... Check out our featured articles, such as Ilbratha or Wheloon... they are written like historical articles - Darkwynters (talk) 00:18, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Assistance
Welp, easy way to put it is I have little to no idea what it is I am doing. I frankly have no experience with any wiki stuff barring the obvious. (Which I figure is clear by my sloppy work on the three pages I've added) I'm unsure on how to keep things consistent with other pages on the wiki as well. Granted with every new page I'm getting a better idea of what I'm missing or doing wrong, but since things like the citing always gets changed I figure I'm still not understanding quite a bit. I've seen that it is often you who is fixing these things, so who better to ask about it, right?

I am not even sure I'm putting this in the right place. At first I thought I could just reply to the welcome, but then I really couldn't find a button for that so now I'm here. Hope this isn't wrong as well.

Edit: There are two headers with the same name. I clearly have done something wrong. Fantastic. PseudoNeutral (talk) 10:44, March 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Pseudo, thank you... many editors do not ask questions... I was going to write a huge section here, but admin Movie has just written an excellent one, so I am using "copying" it, but changing a few words to fit your needs :)


 * Thanks for your Assam article, it's a good start :) You mentioned help in your talk with DW, so I thought I'd give you a couple suggestions. You chose to write an article about a location, so the next step would be to add the Location infobox to your page, and fill it out as best you can. You can copy and paste it from the "Usage" section. If you follow that link and scroll down, you'll see the "Standardized Sections". These are the general guidelines we use for articles about locations. Copy and paste them into your page, add your info (and anything else that the headings might suggest to you) and delete the ones you don't use. Take a look at other location articles to see how they are put together. Don't worry about getting it perfect, one of the other editors or admins will come along and tidy up if it needs it. Just remember to write everything in your own words (with few exceptions, we cannot accept passages copied directly from the source), and put it in past tense (see the Past Tense Policy and Plagiarism policy). And most of all, have fun! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 22:04, March 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Awesome advice, Movie!!! - Darkwynters (talk) 22:36, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Zillak
I saw you wondering about the Gromph's assassin; I read the book and I remember clearly that he was NEVER used the Baenre surname, he probably was a minor noble, not affiliated with Baenre by blood.- Unknown user 11 (talk) 21:46, March 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, User 11, I decided to go with your edit... P.S. You would be really cool if you created an account :) - Darkwynters (talk) 21:51, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox
I'm having trouble copying/pasting the infobox and page setup for a new "Persons" page. Could tell me exactly what I need to do to do this properly?

Artemas

Sort Key
Actually, when you removed the sort key from the Template:Class table in Thallos el Bhirax, his name ceased being sorted properly in Category:Fighters (2e). You need to have both the sort key param and the set, because the default setting in the class table is to use. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:16, April 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not sure what you mean, Lhyn... BadCat and I have been using the Defaultsort for years now... Thallos el Bhirax is under both "Fighters (2e)" and "Fighters of 7th Level (2e)... - Darkwynters (talk) 23:29, April 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, actually, this is really weird and both BadCat and Movie need to have a look at this... for example, Artus Cimber is under "A" for the auto class cats... and under "C" for all other cats... I think we need to have a look into this... I thought the Defaultsort... sorted everything... hmmm, nice catch, Lhyn - Darkwynters (talk) 23:37, April 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, you see what I mean now. :) It is very weird, because it's not the sort key either, as I thought at first. Some of the names in the Fighters (2e) list are sorted properly, but they aren't using the sort key. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:41, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

It's not a bug, it's a feature. :D See the Template:Class table/doc. However, if some are sorting properly without being told to do so, then we may have another problem. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 01:30, April 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I wish we'd keep a conversation in one place... I also assumed defaultsort would apply to all categories, handmade and generated, being default and all... I can't look at code now, but I believe someone like Thallos el Bhirax wouldn't need special sorting – Bhirax is his father's name, so he would be sorted under Thallos. But Lhynard would be the expert on Calishite naming conventions here. — BadCatMan (talk) 01:34, April 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * (Actually, Bhirax is his surname; Sarsor was his father's name.) ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:37, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

On the Artus Cimber page, moving the defaultsort from bottom to top fixed the problem. The page now appears under "C" for both static and generated categories. So, there are two solutions to the problem. Either specify the sortkey parameter in the Class table, or put the  above the infobox. Neither solution is very convenient. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:59, April 21, 2015 (UTC)