Talk:Daltim Flamefist

Odd piece of lore
I found that Daltim Flamefist is quoted in Planescape's The Factol's Manifesto (p. 157) as "visiting prime mage". So he has visited Sigil at least once. Not sure if this warrants a mention in Appearances or something, but I like it how they added such connections into Planescape instead of just choosing a random name. Daranios (talk) 19:34, May 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sweet. I love stumbling across gems like that. :) Artemaz (talk) 19:45, May 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Do it! Little crossovers like spice up the wiki and let us build links between settings and wikis, and I'd love to find out what he was up to there. I have half a mind to introduce him as a mentor for a PC (a pyromancer wizard/psion/cerebremancer himself) in my campaign, through his writings if not in person You can mention it in History perhaps.


 * I should clarify his wizardly stats, as I wasn't familiar with the 2e magic systems when I made this article, and you might make a different interpretation. First, in 3e, here in Class Chronicles, he's a domain [fire] wizard. A domain wizard is a variant that gets an independent set of themed spells, like a cleric and their domains, describes here in the SRD.
 * In 2e, in Gold & Glory (1992) and in The Shining South (1993), he's a "14th-level fire mage", while in Pages from the Mages (1995), he's described as a "14th-level pyromancer (a wizard specialized in the school of elemental fire)", in all cases with psionic wild talents. I didn't know if they were just fluff names for wizards or were specific classes at the time. You probably know better, Daranios. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 01:02, May 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * Added it now as activities! As for the class, "a wizard specialized in the school of elemental fire" is just the definition of the fire elementalist from Tome of Magic 2nd edition (1991). I have not otherwise encountered the term pyromancer, so I assume it to be a fluff term for fire elementalist (and a term I like). As an aside, while looking I found that Flandal Steelskin wears the title "the Pyromancer", and in 2nd edition Demihuman Deities his avatar is (among other things) a fire elementalist. By the way, do you think we should add another level for the four different elementalists below Category:Elementalists (2e)? Daranios (talk) 11:08, May 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks. Technically, a pyromancer is one who uses fire for divination, and it's extended from to other magical uses of fire.


 * If the elementalist classes are all mechanically the same, then I think we should just lump them together in one category, and not differentiate them. It shouldn't be too hard to go through looking for fire-users, rather than adding four separate groups of categories in each edition. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:36, May 26, 2016 (UTC)