Forgotten Realms Wiki:Requests

The Requests page is for making requests for new articles or edits to be made to existing articles, in order to fix problems and better target our work to meet the needs of our readers and Forgotten Realms fans.

You may request, for example: Please do not request more than a few tasks at a time so that the list does not grow absurdly large. Please don't make requests idly either; focus on things useful to you or important to the setting or the wiki. Tell us why you want to know or what you want to use it for, so we know we can help the fans. Furthermore, focus your requests on specific topics, not wider subjects, so they can be more easily addressed. Requests that are against existing policy will not be addressed. Changes to policy will not be addressed here, but at individual policy discussions (on Talk pages or in the Forum).
 * New article: Ask for a new article to be written. Be aware that a new article takes effort in research and writing, and editors might not have the information available, so new articles aren't often likely to be written.
 * More information: Ask for more information to be added to an article. As above, this takes effort and so won't be very likely.
 * Rewrite: If you find a page containing information copied outright from a sourcebook, then notify us so that it can be deleted, rewritten, or tagged for later clean-up. See the Plagiarism template.
 * Copy-edit: A professional-level copy-editing of a page to clear up spelling mistakes, bad grammar, confusing language, present-tense and out-of-universe points-of-view, and untidy formatting. This will generally be handled by User:BadCatMan, User:Lhynard, or preferably by another native-English-speaking editor (add your name to the list here if you feel capable). Requests can also be made directly at the following links:
 * User:BadCatMan/Pages_to_copy-edit
 * Referencing: Ask someone to find a reference for an unreferenced article.
 * Fact check: Does something not sound right or do you think you know better? Ask for a second opinion on some information in an article.
 * Bug check: If you find a bug or broken template or code, then maybe we can fix it if you notify us.
 * New feature: Request a new feature. Be aware that this may require extensive coding, wide-scale changes, be against policy, or require someone to manage it, so these aren't likely to be fulfilled.
 * Help: If you need some help crafting an article or learning about an aspect of the wiki, then you can ask us here. Lengthy instructions will be directed to individual Talk pages.
 * Something else: If it's something else that needs doing, then try us.

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 * Title or Subject
 * Article: Article name
 * Type: Choose one of the above reasons to better target the work.
 * Action: What needs to be done.
 * Reason: Why it needs to be done.
 * Information: List any sources that may be useful.
 * Requested by: Your name or signature, plus a date (just enter four tildes, ~)
 * Response: If someone plans to do this, or has further information, then add it here, plus your signature.
 * Resolution: What was done. Give your name and signature.

Active requests
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 * 5th and 4th edition creature sizes
 * Article: Category:Creatures by size
 * Type: More information
 * Action: What are the size ranges for creature categories in 5th and 4th edition?
 * Reason: In the various sub-categories of Creatures by size I have added the varying size definitions from 1st to 3rd edition. But I don't have access to 4th edition. And about 5th edition I am somewhat confused: In the core books I have only seen information about what space a creature of each category controls. While this is a nice frame, I does not actually give us creature size. And it is not always a clear criterion as both small and medium-sized creatures control 5 x 5 ft. Is there an official definition? If not, we could find out by comparing different creatures. (E.g. 4 ft seems to be the dividing line between small and medium-sized, judging from the info about gnomes and dwarves.) But has anyone experience if this is applied consistently in the books?
 * Requested by: Daranios (talk) 12:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Response: I have added the "occupies x times x feet" definition now, and the 4 ft size distinction for small/medium size. I have only now realized that the Monster Manual 5th edition does not (usually?) give any concrete sizes, so I guess there is no more concrete size definition either. Or is there?
 * Would anyone like to add the missing 4th edition sizes? I don't have those books. Daranios (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Resolution:


 * Forgotten Realms Wiki
 * Article: N/A
 * Type: Bug
 * Action: With the new format, searches default to "All Wikis" and reset after each search even if you've selected FR Wiki. Additionally, direct search results no longer bring you directly to the corresponding page. – 108.4.15.208
 * Response: The new format is all because of FANDOM's recent migration to a new system. We have no control over it. I (and I presume others) also haven't encountered this problem, so I can't give any advice. I recommend you submit a bug report at . BadCatMan (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

"whilst Volo sorely taxed the old mage's patience."
 * Elminster Aumar and Volothamp Geddarm Relationships
 * Article: Elminster Aumar
 * Type: Citation needed
 * Action: Add citation
 * Reason: Seems appropriate
 * Information: In "Relationsips - Allies" section

"... The engaging rogue Volo has done a better job on this tome, know ye, than on his misguided volume on magic (Volo's Guide to All Things Magical). It were best he should leave dabbling in Art to those who know better.
 * Sourcebook: Preface of Volo's Guide to Waterdeep (page 4)

Naetheless, he missed a lot of Waterdeep that even an occasional visitor such as myself can spot. Much, no doubt, passed unseen beneath his very nose. He's got some things quite wrong, too—but ye'll discover what when ye meet them, even if that's (ahem) just a might late. ... Elminster of Shadowdale"


 * Requested by: Mantafloppy 07-21-2020


 * Celestials
 * Article: Celestial and related creatures
 * Type: Clean-up, New Article
 * Action: I will be working to expand the celestial articles over the next week or so. I would appreciate it if someone else would check over my writing for clarity. Also, I will be linking to the source PDFs on the talk pages if anyone is interested in those (don't worry, it is legal and free).
 * Requested by:--SilverTiger12 (talk) 03:32, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
 * Response: Welcome back! I've looked over shiradi and made some revisions. Lhynard had a big celestials project, so you may want to discuss who's doing what, and what still needs to be done, with him. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:05, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
 * Response: Yes, I have a large project for this already. You are welcome to write missing articles, but please do not add articles or add red links to creatures that are not relevant to the Forgotten Realms. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:20, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: I have gotten all the eladrin articles, and am working on the guardinals. The paragon pages are also a work in progress, so please don't go reverting stuff. However, if someone would do a quick check of what I've got done that would be nice. Also, I posted some rather important links to sources on my profile page if anyone is interested.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 03:05, December 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Please see the changes that I made to your Cervidal article. ~ Lhynard (talk) 03:38, December 28, 2019 (UTC)


 * The Karsestone
 * Article: Karsestone
 * Type: New Article
 * Action: Add information about this important artifact.
 * Reason: Supposedly, Shar had it as of 1374 DR. Did she ever do anything with it? Supposedly, it was the phylactery for one of two liches named Wulgreth. Did he ever return? What connection does it have to the 13 dire oaks and the 13 funky pyramids of Ascore? This has been one of my most wondered-about bits of lore for years.
 * Information: Lost Empires of Faerûn, pp. 110–111, describes information that must be in some novel.
 * Requested by: ~ Lhynard (talk) 05:24, May 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * Response: The Karsestone features prominently in all three books of the Return of the Archwizards trilogy. (I finally found a way to index .epub files so I could do text searches from Windows, allowing me to find "karsestone"; unfortunately, this means I only skimmed through the books and have not yet read enough to create an article.) Anyone who has already read them should feel free to go ahead, as I'm not sure when I'll have the time. —Adoxos (talk) 20:34, May 17, 2020 (UTC)


 * More information on Elminster
 * Article: Elminster Aumar
 * Type: More information; add references
 * Action: Add more robust information (history between 3 and 14 centuries), add more to personality, a lot more to relationships (he knew just about everyone), fill out his in-universe bibliography
 * Reason: Elminster is perhaps the most famous personality of the Realms and to celebrate the Year of Magic, we should properly honor him with a fully-realized article.
 * Information: Dragon and Dungeon magazine articles, Elminster series, Sage of Shadowdale series, others I am not aware of
 * Requested by: Ruf (talk) 17:02, February 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * Response:
 * Resolution:


 * Cleanup of Chult
 * Article: Chult
 * Type: Cleanup of the article
 * Action: Add references, formatting to wiki standard, adding more robust information
 * Reason: The article is a main location of Faerûn and is a place of activity in current FR adventures and games
 * Information: The Jungles of Chult, Tomb of Annihilation, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition, Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide (I own few sourcebooks about this region)
 * Requested by: Ruf (talk) 19:00, December 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response:
 * Resolution:


 * Character References
 * Article: Races, and/or Classes
 * Type: New Feature
 * Action: Add links to pre-existing realms character
 * Reason: Allows for easy quick reference of realms characters if people are looking for specific niches (i.e. pre-existing tielfing bard)
 * Information: Could add a section in the articles like famous people and have a name with link to their article.
 * Ex. (on the elf page) Drizzt Do'Urden : Powerful Dark Elf Range
 * Requested by: Guest 03:08, November 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response:_______
 * Resolution:_______


 * 5e Deity symbol images
 * Article: Lathander, Jergal, Amaunator, Myrkul, etc
 * Type: Add images
 * Action: Add some images please!
 * Reason: They look pretty.
 * Information: They should all be found in Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide
 * Requested by: Ruf (talk) 03:20, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: Done up to letter S except for Auril, Bhaal, Gond, and Lliira's pictures for those became blurry due to their positioning at the inner edge of the book. The next time when I get I access to a scanner I'll try it anew. Bane's and Savras's picture was already on the wiki. Others are already scanned, I will upload them over the next days. Saya222 (talk) 16:54, November 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * Resolution: __________


 * Xanathar(s)
 * Article: Xanathar, Xanathar (original), potentially other new articles
 * Type: More information, rewrite
 * Action: Identifying the various Xanathars, coming up with an elegant solution for dealing with their articles. Separate articles or one combined?
 * Reason: Xanathar is an important character in 5th edition, and will serve as one of the villains in the upcoming adventure Waterdeep: Dragon Heist. It would be good if the wiki could help dispel confusion about the multiple incarnations of Xanathar.
 * Information: Any old Waterdeep sourcebooks, Death Masks
 * Requested by: Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 16:04, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: I'm currently working in Waterdeep, so I could take a look. The original Xanathar appears in the comics, so I'd need to sort him out eventually. However, there's some 4e-era magazine material I don't have access to and the 5e lore I don't follow. Since there are multiple Xanathars, perhaps we could each take one? I claim the original if so.
 * However, we'd need to settle what to call the various pages. With "the Xanathar" becoming a title for the later beholders, I'd propose we have a Xanathar (disambiguation) page and maybe a Xanathar page for the title alone or have that be the disambig page. Fortunately, it seems most have their ow names, which makes titling them easier: Xanathar (original) for the first one; Kirukeskai for the second one (a.k.a. "The Eye"); another for the third one, whatever its real name is; and Izulktur and Zushaxx for later ones. It looks like Zushaxx is the latest one. Does this sound like a plan? — BadCatMan (talk) 09:27, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: These are the Xanathars I could find in the sources I own:
 * Xanathar (original)
 * Kirukeskai (the Eye)
 * Xandulzrithral (the "current" Xanathar as of Dragon #414, August 2012)
 * Izulktur (preceding Zushaxx, mentioned in Dungeon #206, September 2012)
 * Zushaxx (4e/5e)
 * There's also likely a "Xanathar III" who succeeded Kirukeskai (looks like conflicting sources). I can write Xandulzrithral and Izulktur. I'd prefer not writing Zushaxx since I am not up to date with 5e novels.
 * As for splitting the articles, I think I would prefer Xanathar as the disambig, with a brief explanation of the title. I am not sure there's much to say about the title itself, but I could be wrong. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 10:29, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd love to write about Kirukeskai if no one has already plans or objections.18:12, June 4, 2018 (UTC)~ User:Saya222
 * It's possible to write about the title if one had to. With the Thultyrls, a family name turned title but with mostly unnamed and undetailed holders, I wrote about the title itself with its history, responsibilities, etc., and folded the unnamed members into it. It could be possible to do the same here, but it might not be necessary, as the Xanathars are mostly named and like not very consistent. So, an outside possibility, maybe. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 11:16, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * That would work very well indeed. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 15:40, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ditto. I have done "title" articles as well, such as Red Rysal. In such a case, there is no need for a disambiguation page, as the article will include a "Known Xanathars" or "Notable Xanathars" section. ~ Lhynard (talk) 17:00, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Surely we would need a "Xanathar (disambiguation)" page regardless, to also list Xanathar's Guide to Everything and Xanathar's Thieves' Guild, and anything else named after them? — BadCatMan (talk) 00:38, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Resolution: I have written everything there is to know about the Xanathar (original) and Saya222 seems to have done the same on Kirukeskai. — BadCatMan (talk) 06:57, June 29, 2018 (UTC)


 * Canonicity Check
 * Article: Spire Flow
 * Type: More information
 * Action: Confirmation that the river is canon.
 * Reason: It's named on one of Markustay's maps of the north.
 * Requested by: ~ Lhynard (talk) 17:35, December 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * Information: The corner of the map from The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier features part of this area, but shows no river between the Ice Mountains and the western Ice Spires (unnamed on the map). This may be because the Spire Flow is not canon, or because the area is not yet developed in that source. Daranios (talk) 21:33, December 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Information: The river in question is only present on the map included with the Silver Marches sourcebook. It is, however, not named in that source. As of 5th edition Faerûn, the river no longer exists. I think it's fair to say that "Spire Flow" is a homebrew name, and that the river itself is either a cartographical error, or only existed for a very brief time pre-Spellplague. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 10:08, December 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Deities post Sundering &mdash;
 * Article: Portal:Deities
 * Type: More information
 * Action: I think that a post-Sundering pantheon section could be added
 * Reason: Quite a lot of deities have been restored
 * Information: Player's Handbook 5th edition, The Sundering novel series, the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide (it includes the full post-Sundering pantheon), replies by Ed Greenwood
 * Requested by: — Tsammarco (talk) 15:28, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ashes of the Tyrant and The Devil You Know also includes Enlil. --Zero (talk) 04:38, November 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Response: Sirwhiteout has been adding 5e deity stats and statuses. — BadCatMan (talk) 01:11, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

One of the original problems with the Creatures categories was the blurring between individuals and kinds of creatures. Therefore, I propose a new set of categories, contained under Category:Individuals by Race(?). These categories would be for all those individuals that are currently cluttering the creature categories. An example would be: Category:Individual fiends-> Category:Individual demons-> [Specific demon races]. Given the volume of work needed, a bot could be assigned some of the work. But I'll start with the fiends, to see how it works.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:28, January 29, 2019 (UTC) I am copying here a response I left on your talk page 10 months ago about this issue:
 * Creatures Categories &mdash;
 * Type: Not quite sure, maybe either New Feature or Bug Check
 * Action: Cleaning up the Creatures Categories, also, can there be a link to creatures from the Main Page?
 * Reason: the categories are very difficult to navigate, and tracking down a specific species/race/monster (or group of such) is near-impossible. Secondarily, the Races Portal brings up specific people as well as species.
 * Information: Already there, just need rearranging.
 * Requested by: A Fandom User
 * Response: I have been slowly working through these, but there is a huge mess and five editions to handle. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:11, December 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Response: The Portals drop-down navigation now includes: Creatures, Creatures by alignment, Creatures by CR, Creatures by diet, Creatures by environment, Creatures by size, Creatures by type, and Creature types by edition. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:24, January 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * And I just added the newly-created Category:Creatures by origin to the top navigation menu. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 16:15, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: Right-hand rail now includes a link to the Creatures category. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:43, January 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: And don't forget Forgotten Realms Wiki:DM's Helper Tool (3e)! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 15:04, February 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: If I may suggest some ideas, please put the Fiend, Celestial, and Fey as subcategories at the top of Category:Creatures page. Under Fiend, put the following sub-subcategories: Demon (with further categories of Obyrith, Tanar'ri, Loumara, and Demon Lord), Devil (Baatezu and Archdevil), Yugoloth, Archfiend (Demon Lords and Archdevils), and Half-fiends (creatures like draegloths and cambions). Celestial could be further divided into Angel (Devas), Celestial Archons, Guardinals, Celestial Eladrin, and Celestial Paragons. Also, remove the Demon category from under the Elemental Creatures category. This is all just my suggestions, but I feel like these changes would be very helpful. Thanks!--SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:15, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure you should remove demons from the Elemental Creatures category. I think that is a 4e thing and we try to remain edition-agnostic. However, I will defer to the creature experts. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 01:07, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, at the very least add the Fiends & Celestial Categories. It is a real pain to hunt down the devil and celestial pages in the long list of creatures, and getting to demons by way of elemental creatures is almost as bad.I don't mean to be rude or demanding, but it is annoying and I'd appreciate it if those categories were added. Thanks for your help.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:29, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * As I noted above, many sections of the categories are a mess, admittedly, that Darkwynters and I and others have been working through. But I think that you are just missing where to look. The way that we want it to be is that Category:Creatures contains mostly "Creatures by..." subcategories and nothing else. I just went right now to create a Category:Creatures by origin, which is what we should have had for a long time to handle the 4e origins concept. And I have removed the origin categories that were wrongly so high in the hierarchy. That should make things much better. So then, now, if you are a 4e person, Creatures by Origin is your route. If you think more in 3e or 5e terms, click through to Category:Creatures by type. Here, you will find Category:Fey and Category:Outsiders. All Category:Fiends and Category:Celestials are outsiders, so they should not be listed higher in the hierarchy. From what I can tell, the subcategories from here on are pretty good already. Are there particular areas under Fey, Fiends, or Celestials that are wrong? ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:59, February 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, actually: there seems to be a blurring, of sorts, between "Creatures" and "Inhabitants". Specific demons (such as Errtu) are listed under the "Demons" category. This creates confusion, as just looking through that category page could indicate that Errtu is a kind of demon, rather than a specific balor. It creates categories for specific demonic races, which is also confusing. Could there be a a set of categories (i.e., "Demonic Inhabitants") created to remove specific individuals from creature categories?--SilverTiger12 (talk) 20:41, February 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed Errtu just now for you. He was "over categorized". This is wrong. Any individual is supposed to only have his or her most specific race category. This is different from the "Individuals of Foo" categories, where each individual gets all of the categories from the most specific to the most general. These changes must be made for each article one-by-one. Feel free to make such changes as you see them. I am currently, as I noted, making my way through all of the creature categories, but I am in Category:Humanoids; it will be a while before I get to Category:Outsiders, especially since it is a side product, and my real-life job is very busy lately. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:46, February 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Response: I have started an attempt to clean up the categories, by sifting inhabitants out of larger categories.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:59, March 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * I have noticed; thanks! ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:39, March 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm back! And with some new ideas too...
 * Welcome back!
 * All inhabitants (except gods who never were) are creatures. The intent of the categories is to be able to start at the top&mdash;Category:Creatures, the most general&mdash;and work one's way down to the most specific&mdash;individuals (or inhabitants). For example, Category:Mariliths should include all those pages for individuals who have marilith as their race. Category:Mariliths is as specific a race as one can get. That is, the race mariliths does not have any subraces. Category:Mariliths is a lowest-level category of the creatures hierarchy. The Category:Mariliths category should get two parent categories: Category:Inhabitants by race, which should be the parent category for all races, and Category:Tanar'ri, because all mariliths are tanar'ri.
 * It is OK and expected for category pages to belong to multiple hierarchy trees at the same time.
 * For example. I describe myself as French–Irish by ethnicity; I don't go around telling people that I am human, much less that I am a humanoid, even though I am. But, I should find myself at the bottom of both the creatures hierarchy and the inhabitants hierachy:
 * Creatures->Humanoids->Humans->French–Irish->Lhynard
 * Inhabitants->Inhabitants by race->French–Irish->Lhynard
 * What you are proposing is essentially to have an altogether new category scheme that is an exact overlap of the current one. You would now have "Inhabitants->Inhabitants by race->French–Irish Inhabitants->Lhynard" But you would also have to have "Inhabitants by race->Humanoid Inhabitants->Human Inhabitants->French–Irish Inhabitants->Lhynard", because not all inhabitants have known ethnicities or sub-races or even broader categories. For example, many elves in the Realms have to be categorized as simply elves, simply because their specific sub-races are not known. This means that every single race category is going to need a Foo Inhabitants subcategory. So you end up making the categories far more complicated than they need to be, creating an entire parallel tree of categories.
 * Second, as Moviesign said on your talk page, this is what Category intersections are for. If anyone wants a list of all elves who are individuals but do not have a more specific subcategory, they can use  to get [ this list].
 * Third, your current edits to demonstrate your idea are inconsistent. You put, for example, Category:Blood fiends, Category:Rakshasas, Category:Night hags, and Category:Nightmares as a subcategories of Category:Individual fiends, but Category:Individual fiends should certainly only contain other Individual Foo categories. And many other categories that you made have this error as well.
 * Fourth, to do it the way that you are proposing requires changing literally every single article page for individuals, deleting their current race Foo and replacing it with Individual foos. I really don't think there is any pressing need to completely redo that many thousands of pages. Every individual already has the Inhabitants category. A category intersection will do.
 * I am going to undo the incorrect placement of Foo categories into Individual foo categories right now, but I think we should undo your other changes as well. I do like the idea of adding a category intersection link to each of the creature category pages though. Would doing that make you happy?
 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 03:19, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Completed Requests
Please copy completed requests here, marking what action has been taken and how this resolves the issue. Older requests should be moved to the archive page:
 * Forgotten Realms Wiki:Requests/Archive


 * Archives ✅
 * Article: This page
 * Type: New feature
 * Action: Please make an archive page for the completed requests currently listed at the bottom of this page.
 * Reason: The size of this page is getting to be a bit much, and it will only continue to get bigger.
 * Requested by: SilverTiger (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Response:
 * Resolution: Done!


 * The Dragonspawn so far... ✅
 * Article: Dragonspawn and daughter pages
 * Type: Copy-edit
 * Reason: I've already made most of the dragonspawn articles, but I would like another editor to make sure that they are understandable. Feedback is appreciated.
 * Information: Most are in the Monster Manual IV.
 * Requested by: SilverTiger12 (talk) 15:58, January 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * Response: I've already copy-edited all of these articles, except your most recent, redspawn firebelcher, which I'll probably have done soon. I did the usual improvements to grammar, phrasing, and style. Is that what you require, or do you something more involved or further development? — BadCatMan (talk) 00:29, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
 * Resolution: Done.