Category talk:Arcanists

Since there is a second edition class called Arcanist, I would like to use this category for members of that class. I think most of the articles listed here would be better suited in a category like Category:Arcane spellcasters. I'm working on an article for Arcanist to replace the redirect. Thoughts? &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 04:55, January 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Totally agree... I have never liked this category as is :) - Darkwynters (talk) 05:32, January 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Makes sense to me. — BadCatMan (talk) 09:23, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm, now I'm thinking this category should be deleted in favor of Category:Arcanists (2e), as long as they don't make another "Arcanist" class in some other edition. Anyone know about 5e? What do you think about deleting this category? &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:13, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * I have no idea about 5e, but as it is now merging and deleting this category seems fine to me. Daranios (talk) 10:20, January 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually, there is the Netherese arcanist epic prestige class in 3e. NPCs with that would perforce go in Category:Netherese arcanists (3e). I suppose the 2e and 3e categories would then go in this category.
 * Plus, in Lost Empires of Faerûn, "arcanist" is used as a word like "wizard" or "mage", though largely for Netherese mages. I suppose NPCs described as "arcanists", like Wulgreth, could also go in this category. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:40, January 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * The nit I have to pick with that is that Arcanist is a basic class, but Netherese arcanist is a prestige class. A first level Arcanist is nothing like a first level Netherese arcanist and you cannot compare them. I would like to put Netherese arcanist in Category:Arcane spellcasters, not here. On the second point, it's okay to use "arcanist" to mean "arcane spellcaster" or "wizard" as long as the meaning is made clear by the context. But for categories, I don't want this one to fill up with classes and prestige classes that really belong in Category:Arcane spellcasters. So, I'm still advocating deleting this category and putting Category:Arcanists (2e) under Category:Wizards or wherever the community deems appropriate. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 04:57, January 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, a lot of classes are very different from edition to edition, and the Netherese Arcanist PrC is already epic-only. It's like the old Specialty Priests from Faiths & Avatars that were re-done as prestige classes in Faiths & Pantheons. So, the different kinds of arcanist are meant to be within the same tradition, if not exactly the same.
 * But eh. I don't know much about either and have no stake in it. I'm fine with what you decide is appropriate after doing the work. (Note I had to correct my last post: Wulgreth is an NPC described as an arcanist, he doesn't necessarily have the prestige class.) — BadCatMan (talk) 06:05, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

I have compromised with myself and brought this category back. I couldn't stand the asymmetry it caused when I deleted it. I'll just have to keep an eye on it in case some other spellcasting class wanders in here. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 04:44, January 31, 2015 (UTC)