User talk:Saya222

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— Hashimashadoo (talk) 12:24, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Welcome and advice
Hi. Welcome to the wiki.

Thanks for your additions to Vhaeraun and Silverhair Knights.

With Silverhair Knights, note that we don't present crunch and other rules-related stuff in the main text of the article, or else we minimize it as much as possible. You also don't have to repeat stuff already in an article or add suppositions that aren't necessary from the source lore. It was complete as it was.

If you wish to develop lore about the followers of Vhaeraun, then rather than adding it to the main article, consider creating a church of Vhaeraun article dedicated to them. Check out Church of Ilmater for a very detailed example. We just like to see newly developed deity articles focus on the deity for improved readability

Also get to know the Preview button. You can press Preview, see if something works or not, or if something else needs adding, before you press Publish and save it.

To make references easier, after you've added you can then simply use to use the same reference.

Ask us if you have questions. If looks like you're quickly getting the hang of things. And once again, welcome! — BadCatMan (talk) 12:37, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

Vhaeraun page
Hello, Saya222.

I'd be happy to work with you on the page about Vhaeraun and his followers. I understand the difficulty to be neutral, since Eilistraee and Vhaeraun are my favourite deities in the Forgotten Realms (Eilistraee means a lot to me, but I also *really* like Vhaeraun, and was very pleased to see them working together in 5e), so there's no problem with that.

I also understand the difficulty with language, as I am a non native speaker too, and I too have troubles with idioms and forms (although translating from Japanese must be surely harder than transalting from Italian).

That said, BadCatMan suggested to split the page in two articles, one for Vhaeraun, and one for his followers.

A Church of Vhaeraun page should include the info that you have added to the deity page (so, composition of the worshipers/clergy, beliefs/dogma, activities, relationships, orders, notable characters). But it should also include lore about rituals, magic items, equipment, centers of worship. The history is mostly the same as that of Vhaeraun himself, but it could use a few adjustments to better emphasize the role of the worshiper themselves. The sections about the Vhaeraunite orders, organizations and the speciality priests should be just brief paragraphs, and redirect to the main pages (in line with the articles that BadCatMan linked).

Vhaeraun's page itself is missing sections about his manifestations, powers, and activities. The worshipers section should be reduced to a small summary, and then provide a link to the Church of Vhaeraun page. We could move the info about the holy symbol and the divine realm to sections on their own (the one about the realm should probably be split in subsections about the Great Wheel, World Tree and World Axis cosmologies, to avoid confusion. The 5e, and current cosmology, is a slightly altered version of the Great Wheel).

I don't know what books you have access to (I guess that Lords of Darkness, Skullport and Faiths and Pantheons are among them), but Demihuman Deities and The Drow of the Underdark (both 2e) include a much more complete writeup of the deity and his church, so they should also be mined for lore.

Again, I'd be happy to work with you.

Best regards, Tommaso

PS: I think that we should move the conversation to the Vhaeraun Talk Page (in fact, I'll copy-paste all of this there)--Tsammarco (talk) 16:05, July 18, 2016 (UTC)