Talk:Yurian

Given the differentiation in 5e between crab folk (MFF Vol. 1) and aldani (ToA), as well as the overall extreme differences in appearance between editions (save 2nd and 3rd), I think further inspection into whether all of the creatures described on this page are actually the same creatures at all, and not just superficially similar, would be in order. — Look-a-troopa (talk) 23:37, December 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there actually any source for yurani and aldani being the same thing? --Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:31, December 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've read through the sources. It appears that the idea that aldani are synonymous with yurians comes from Serpent Kingdoms, but because of the discrepancies in appearance with both Jungles of Chult and Tomb of Annihilation, as well as the very Chult-specific origin of the aldani, IMO this doesn't check out and was probably a product of wanting to cut down on statblock bloat. The crabman-yurian lineage seems to have gone like: 1E Fiend Folio introduces crabmen; the Fiend Folio Appendix (entry later reprinted in the Monstrous Manual) describes and depicts crabmen in a substantially different way; 3E Fiend Folio runs with the Appendix version but renames them to yurians; Mordenkainen's Fiendish Folio recontextualizes the original depiction, calls them crabfolk, and gives them a new backstory.


 * I think the article should be split into: Yurian (Monstrous Manual, 3E Fiend Folio), Aldani (The Jungles of Chult, Tomb of Annihilation), and Crabfolk (1E Fiend Folio, Mordenkainen's Fiendish Folio Volume 1) (perhaps the last might not have enough of a connection to the realms, might have to dig for usage of the monster in 1E sources or wait for the newest version to be used in a FR adventure or something). — Look-a-troopa (talk) 17:04, December 12, 2019 (UTC)


 * Im not an expert on monster lore but it seems like there are some distinctions here. Look-a, would the Aldani be the same as the lobsterfolk? Ruf (talk) 17:22, December 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, lobsterfolk is given as a synonym for aldani in ToA. — Look-a-troopa (talk) 17:26, December 12, 2019 (UTC)