Forum:Honor Among Thieves project page

To keep track of what needs doing and who's doing what regarding Honor Among Thieves (HaT) and its various tie-in material, I've created this project page to list the related articles and their statuses. Please check these off and update to indicate which articles are in good shape, which need work, and which you're currently working on or intend to work on soon.

I've marked some as Done based on them having Good banners, appearing complete and comprehensive on a skim, or the knowledge they'd been developed recently. However, even an article that's marked as Done could be revised or expanded, and will need work again after releases, so don't treat these estimates as rigid and expect them to be in flux. Some entries are speculative for various reasons, so check before committing to a major project.

Mark entries off with: in progress, not started, done, and any other details you think necessary. ~ BadCatMan (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Characters
Major characters new from HaT.
 * Edgin Darvis – covered novelization
 * Holga Kilgore – covered novelization
 * Simon Aumar
 * Doric
 * Xenk Yendar – covered novelization
 * Forge Fitzwilliam
 * Sofina
 * Dralas – covered novelization
 * Kira
 * Zia – covered novelization

Minor and unknown characters new from HaT.
 * Gorg – covered novelization
 * Lucas, Tobias – covered novelization
 * Jarnathan – covered novelization
 * Blackwood
 * Fennor, Gurt, Rond – covered novelization
 * Marlamin & Gwinn
 * Rakor – covered novelization
 * Valxina
 * Din Caldwell, Porb Piradost
 * Stanhard Grimwulf, Toke Horgath, Sven Salafin, Ven Salafin – covered novelization
 * Kimathi Stormhollow
 * Ramsay Windfall
 * Ishira

Characters new from tie-in novels
 * Lady Bantakent, Lord Bantakent, Bantakent, Miffles
 * Sharrestren

Existing characters from Realmslore.
 * Elminster –
 * Palarandusk –
 * Themberchaud – covered novelization
 * Szass Tam –
 * Dagult Neverember – covered novelization
 * Dmitra Flass –
 * Voss Anderton – covered novelization
 * Kriv Norixius – covered novelization
 * Jil Torbo – covered novelization
 * Dmitra Flass
 * Bobby • Diana • Eric • Hank • Presto • Sheila (appearing in some form in Arena battle)

Creatures
Some of these are generic (human) or speculative based on association with various sites (deep gnome, duergar).
 * aarakocra
 * displacer beast – ✅
 * dracolich
 * dragon
 * black dragon
 * copper dragon
 * gold dragon – ✅
 * red dragon – ✅
 * dragonborn – ✅
 * dwarf – ✅
 * gelatinous cube – ✅
 * giant spider
 * green hag
 * half-elf
 * half-orc
 * hobgoblin
 * human
 * Uthgardt
 * intellect devourer – ✅
 * lich – ✅
 * mimic
 * owlbear (snowy owlbear) – ✅
 * tabaxi – ✅
 * tiefling
 * wood elf
 * yuan-ti abomination

Organizations

 * Elk tribe – covered novelization
 * Harpers – ✅
 * Red Wizards of Thay
 * Thayan knights – ✅
 * Emerald Enclave – ✅
 * Neverwinter Guard – ✅
 * Wintershield Watchmen – ✅
 * Cult of the Dragon – ✅
 * Zhentarim

Locations
''Although overall cities might be done, the people, places, organizations, and others within them could still need checking or expanding, but their appearances will be a lottery. Confirmed or likely elements can be added here as they are found.''
 * Neverwinter – ✅
 * Castle Never - ✅
 * Neverwinter Arena (possibly a descriptive name made for the Monopoly board)
 * Driftwood Tavern – ✅
 * Nasher Alagondar – ✅
 * Halueth Never – ✅
 * History of Neverwinter
 * Icewind Dale
 * Lonelywood
 * Revel's End – ✅
 * Absolution Council – ✅
 * Targos – ✅
 * The Trip and Shuffle – ✅
 * Triboar – ✅
 * Triboar playhouse (unnamed; descriptive name made for the Monopoly board)
 * Gracklstugh – ✅
 * Keepers of the Flame – ✅
 * Dolblunde – ✅
 * Daurgothoth
 * Evermoors
 * Evermoors cemetery (possibly a descriptive name made for the Monopoly board)
 * Flint Rock – ✅
 * Red Rocks – ✅
 * River Surbrin – ✅
 * Surbrin Valley
 * Sword Coast
 * Sword Coast North
 * Thay
 * Underdark
 * Northwest Faerûn
 * Neverwinter Wood
 * Mount Hotenow
 * Mornbryn's Shield – ~ Artie (talk)
 * Longsaddle
 * Korinn's Keep
 * Korinn Archipelago (seems likely, given the keep's name, but could be a coincidence) – ✅
 * Wood Elf Village (too generic a name, presumably a site in the Neverwinter Wood)
 * Kryptgarden Forest – ✅
 * Caldreth's Pickles, Nuts, and Foods, a.k.a. Harper's sanctuary (descriptive name made for the Monopoly board, given the singular 'Harper'; lies beneath another named location)
 * Starmetal Hills – ✅
 * Ardeep Forest

Pinned Maps

 * Icewind Dale
 * Lonelywood? (from RotFm)
 * Neverwinter
 * Targos (from RotFm) – ✅
 * Triboar (from SKT) – ✅

Spells
Spells may be difficult to identify from special effects and some spell names given in interviews are dubious, so try to be certain before adding them here.
 * animate objects
 * Bigby's hand
 * green-flame blade – ✅
 * magic missile
 * Maximilian's earthen grasp
 * meteor swarm
 * misty step
 * shield
 * speak with dead
 * time stop
 * wall of force

Magic Items
New from HaT
 * Helmet of Disjunction (the golden helm, name confirmed)
 * pendant of invisibility – ✅

Existing D&D
 * alchemy jug
 * bag of holding
 * Galadaster's Orizon – ✅
 * ''Harper pin (lesser) / Harper pin (greater)?

Classes

 * barbarian
 * bard
 * druid
 * Circle of the Moon? – ✅
 * wild shape
 * paladin
 * Oath of Devotion
 * Divine smite
 * rogue
 * sorcerer
 * wild magic source/wild mage?
 * wizard
 * Necromancy

Miscellaneous
New from HaT
 * Highsun Games
 * daggersword
 * battle of the Evermoors (name possibly just descriptive)

Existing Realmslore
 * Gwaeron Windstrom
 * Kelemvor
 * Darksteel
 * Dethek – ✅
 * Ethereal plane
 * Thorass alphabet
 * lute
 * map
 * water clock – ✅
 * wild magic
 * potato – ✅

Timeline
Since the movie's like to be undated and the tie-in novels certainly are, I thought we should start laying out the dating evidence so we can find a year for it or at least just keep our timeline consistent given the flashbacks. First, since Dagult Neverember is out of power, the main events of the movie must be 1496 DR or later. I give it a placeholder year of 149(m) DR.
 * Earlier: Neverwinter's High Sun Games were active when Edgin was young (dad took him to see one), later banned.
 * 149(m−11): 11 years ago, Edgin joins Harpers. Zia is pregnant with Kira.
 * 149(m−7, less a few months): Zia is murdered, Edgin becomes a single dad
 * 149(m−7): 7 years ago, Edgin, Holga, & Kira turn to a life of crime with a smash-and-grab of a jewelry store. Kira is aged 4.
 * 149(m−2): 2 years ago, Edgin, Holga, Simon, and Forge recruited by Sofina for Korinn's Keep robbery.
 * 149(m) DR: Movie start, meeting with Absolution Council. Said to be their "second year of incarceration"; it's been two years since they were incarcerated. Kira is around 11.