Talk:Crystal Spire

Not a question, just a note for whoever could read this article and compare it to Planar traits on the 3.5 SRD: "static" is not listed among the "time" traits of a Plane, it's listed among the "morphic" traits of a Plane. This made me confused at first. However, reading the description in Player's Guide to Forgotten Realms, I think the game designers intended for the Plane to be Timeless, the manual says something like "Static: the static nature of Fugue Plane allows the devils to torment petitioners without ever ending their pain" but the "static" morphic trait is not about that. From SRD: "Static: These planes are unchanging. Visitors cannot affect living residents of the plane, nor objects that the denizens possess." If the Fugue Plane was indeed morphically static, the devils (who are visitors) wouldn't be able to torture souls (who are residents), in my reading. This could have changed by 1479 DR since the "Kelemvor's Agreement" mentioned in the novel The Edge of Chaos says souls could reside in the city for up to a tenday before a divine servant came to collect them. Just my piece of mind. Am I missing something? 93.66.86.131 18:54, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Rewriting
I believe some of this article needs to be rewritten so as to incorporate the City of Judgement and City of the Dead/Strife as one location. This article uses as passage on page 20 of the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide to differentiate the two:

"Most humans believe the souls of the recently deceased are spirited away to the Fugue Plane, where they wander the great City of Judgment, often unaware they are dead...The truly false and faithless are mortared into the Wall of the Faithless, the great barrier that bounds the City of the Dead, where their souls slowly dissolve and begin to become part of the stuff of the Wall itself."

However page 259 of theForgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition states the Wall of the Faithless is found within the City of Judgement:

"They form a living wall around the City of Judgment, held together by a supernatural greenish mold. This mold prevents them from escaping the wall and eventually breaks down their substance until the soul and its consciousness are dissolved."

Additionally, the Wall of the Faithless was also included in the City of Strife, according to page 3 of Faiths & Avatars:

"They are formed into a living wall around the City of Strife—Kelemvor, the new lord of the dead, may soon rename it—in the realm of the dead in Oinos in the Gray Waste and left there until they dissolve."

Essentially I believe all three terms refer to the same city. The location of that city changes depending on the model of the cosmologies, but that can be easily explained. Ruf (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)