Forgotten Realms Wiki:Featured article nominations

This thread is for nominating, discussing and voting on featured articles to go on the Featured article template. An article that reaches at least 3 votes in favour, including one administrator vote, will be promoted to featured article status.

Please nominate an article in the following format: ==Article Name==
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 * Disclaimer:
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 * Pros:
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 * Requests
 * Verdict:
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 * Article Name: The name of the nominated article. This should be a direct link to the article.
 * Nominated by: The editor who originally nominated the article for feature status.
 * Disclaimer: Please note if you wrote the article yourself or otherwise had a strong hand in it.
 * Vote: The current score. Please add 1 if you are for it, subtract 1 if you are against it.
 * For: List your name here if in favor.
 * Against: List your name if in not in favor.
 * Pros: Give a dot-point list of reasons why the article should be featured.
 * Cons: Give a dot-point list of reasons why the article should not be featured.
 * Requests: List anything you feel should be done to the article that would make improve and/or make it worthy of featured status.
 * Verdict: The final result of the vote: 'approved' to be a featured article; 'pending' or blank if it's still under discussion; or 'refused' if it's currently irredeemable without major reworking. The verdict will be decided by an administrator after thorough checking.

For Nominated, For, and Against, just list your user name: User:__. For Pros, Cons, and Requests, give a reason following by a short signature. Your user name will do.

You may change your vote if you are satisfied by changes to an article, or find some problem with it. Please relocate your name to the correct category, update the current vote, and note the change somewhere.

Extensive discussion of requested work on an article should be taken to that article's Talk page.

World Tree cosmology — Approved!

 * Vote: 3
 * For
 * Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters

instead of – Moviesign
 * Against
 * Disclaimer: I rewrote nearly all of this article. – Moviesign
 * Pros
 * big article, copious references, fancy image map, demonstrates use of the "notes" template, fairly complete coverage of the topic, mostly Realms specific. – Moviesign
 * Excellently written, complete and cited. – BadCatMan
 * Amazing image map, excellent coverage of a key part of the setting. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:24, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Multi-edition resourced, clean and organized Darkwynters (talk) 18:52, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * Topic is not universally appealing, only the one image, not strictly in-universe due to nature of the topic. – Moviesign
 * Real-world point of view (references to sourcebooks, editions, players): I think we should maintain an in-universe POV for in-universe articles (is there a policy for this?). – BadCatMan
 * This has been addressed. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:24, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Perhaps this could be altered for a mainly in-universe POV, while real-world information could appear in an appendix with the notes? More pictures could be included by showing images of specific planes from the 3e/3.5 era. For example, File:Barrens of Doom and Despair.jpg could be shown as a thumbnail beside the Barrens of Doom and Despair section. – BadCatMan
 * Added image. Will look for more. – Moviesign
 * Because of the cosmology retcon, there is no in-universe way to explain the sudden shift in cosmology details (like switching from Ethereal Plane to Astral Plane for journeys to the Inner Planes) because WotC didn't give us one. The article attempts to bring a sense of real-world continuity to an in-universe discontinuity and I believe relegating the meta-info to the appendix would leave behind a jumble that doesn't make much sense on first reading. – Moviesign
 * Moved the retcon explanation to the Notes section and re-wrote a few sentences to be more in-universe.
 * Added another image. – Moviesign
 * Good work! I've added another image and am going over it with some copy-editing, expanded a note about the retcon. That's in progress. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:24, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * There were three locations which need citations and I removed a lot of duplicate links... of course, if you feel these links are needed, feel free to undo my work :) Darkwynters (talk) 18:52, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Added missing citations. BTW, I think the space between the body of a ref tag and its terminator is considered good XML practice, i.e., is preferable to It's the same for
 * Added missing citations. BTW, I think the space between the body of a ref tag and its terminator is considered good XML practice, i.e., is preferable to It's the same for
 * Verdict:Approved as a Featured Article! — BadCatMan (talk) 02:26, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

The Vast — Approved!

 * Vote: 3
 * For
 * Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters


 * Against
 * Disclaimer: Largely developed by BadCatMan
 * Pros
 * big article, excellent infobox, copious references, demonstrates use of the "notes" template, well organized, seems exhaustively complete, Realms specific. Even unfinished this is an excellent article. – Moviesign
 * Well organized, researched, and excellent presentation - Darkwynters (talk) 16:20, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * "Fauna" section only has two sentences (I had to really reach to find even that much of a con). – Moviesign
 * I added a whistling rabbit for you. :p Otherwise, there's not much lore on animals specific to the Vast. — BadCatMan
 * I'm not finished with it yet. :) – BadCatMan
 * I think I'm finally finished with it! :D — BadCatMan (talk) 13:39, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * There's some one-liners at the beginning I haven't sorted out yet, and I want to expand on the introduction; make a cities and towns overview; write a bit about the local orcs and goblinoids; a section on general mysteries and adventure opportunities. Plus I need to work on the recent history. My Vast work is on hold while I concentrate on other projects. – BadCatMan
 * And now I've done all that. — BadCatMan (talk) 13:39, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Since Procampur is already a Featured Article, please choose a different map for the infobox to differentiate it from that article. If/when this becomes a FA, it should probably be put 6 months away from Procampur to avoid having two articles concerned with the same region back-to-back on the calendar.
 * Actually, I used a different image on Featured article/1, so there should be no problem with the images on featured passages. As for the articles themselves, I've used that map on most places in the Vast, as there are few images of the locations themselves. I don't think that would be too confusing. — BadCatMan (talk) 02:09, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could use File:FRA Procampur map.jpg instead for Procampur. It's a map of the city the article addresses and would help differentiate it from the Vast infobox image.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 14:04, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mean on Procampur or on Template:Featured article/1? I didn't use the city map in the infobox on the article because there it would be small and not very pretty. — BadCatMan (talk) 15:30, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course. June/6 or August/8 should do it. — BadCatMan (talk) 02:09, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict:Approved as a Featured Article! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 20:06, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! — BadCatMan (talk) 23:29, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! — BadCatMan (talk) 23:29, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Nine Hells

 * Vote: 2
 * For
 * Moviesign, Darkwynters


 * Against
 * Disclaimer: I rewrote much of this article. – Moviesign
 * Pros
 * big article, copious references, good infobox, demonstrates use of the "notes" template, attempts to cover all versions of the plane over three cosmology models. – Moviesign
 * excellent organization, expertly sourced, and interesting subject matter - Darkwynters (talk) 18:38, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cons
 * topic is not universally appealing, could be improved with more material from newer sources, only the one image. – Moviesign
 * the article does lack specific references to the Realms, though it does include Forgotten Realms sourcebooks - Darkwynters (talk) 18:38, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Requests

Zhentil Keep

 * Vote: -1
 * For
 * Moviesign


 * Against
 * hash, Darkwynters


 * Disclaimer:
 * Pros
 * Big article, well referenced, popular topic, extra images. – Moviesign
 * Big & reasonably comprehensive – hash
 * Cons
 * Quite a few red links. – Moviesign (Withdrawn)
 * The timeline in Ruins of Zhentil Keep upon which a lot of the article is based was deliberately written with a pro-zhentarim bias. Red links. – hash
 * Missing sources; needs clean up and organization - Darkwynters
 * Requests
 * Cross-reference with other sources so the article is truthful. – hash

Mithral Hall

 * Vote: 0
 * For
 * Moviesign


 * Against
 * Darkwynters


 * Disclaimer:
 * Pros
 * Big article, well referenced, well-known topic, gallery – Moviesign
 * Cons
 * Some subsections fall below the three-sentence rule/guideline. – Moviesign
 * Organization; entire sections need citations; needs more clarity in wording - Darkwynters
 * Requests

Kalach-Cha

 * Vote: -1
 * For
 * BadCatMan


 * Against
 * Darkwynters, hash


 * Disclaimer:
 * Pros
 * Huge (biggest real article on the wiki), complete, popular topic — BadCatMan
 * Popular — hash
 * Cons
 * No pictures, huge wall of text. B canon, but that's not a real drawback. The main problem is the language: it's very vague, severely overuses "would" statements, uses awkward his/her and he/she genders, and generally suffers for trying to accommodate the branching storylines of the game and player customisation of the character. — BadCatMan
 * Too comprehensive - lots of information that doesn't need to be there; Lots of red links; unattractive. — hash
 * Organization; needs to be reworded; no sources for specific game references - Darkwynters
 * Requests
 * This needs an edit to improve the language (hey, that's something I can do). Pictures can be included by taking scenes from the game and other character (essentially, the article is as much a synopsis of the game as it is a biography of the character). — BadCatMan
 * Feels like I am playing a game, not reading about a person and his history - Darkwynters

Larloch — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: I wrote this. :D — BadCatMan


 * Vote: +4
 * For
 * BadCatMan, Darkwynters, hash, Moviesign


 * Against


 * Pros
 * Big, complete, fully referenced, pictures — BadCatMan
 * Comparatively few red links; comprehensive; well-referenced. — hash
 * Excellent research of topic and uses multiple sources - Darkwynters
 * Cons
 * That much text needs to be interspersed with more pictures. Perhaps we can find a fan artist who wouldn't mind us hosting their work? — hash
 * Requests
 * Verdict: Approved as a featured article! — BadCatMan

Procampur — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: I wrote this. :D BadCatMan
 * Vote: +3
 * For
 * BadCatMan, Darkwynters, Moviesign


 * Against
 * Pros
 * Big, complete, fully referenced, pictures and quotes. It's a bit of a wall-of-text, but I broke it up with section breaks and the few images I could find. — BadCatMan
 * Cleanly written and organized; editor clearly demonstrated his appreciation of the subject - Darkwynters
 * Cons
 * Perhaps its over-referenced? I need to do something with the unnamed temple of Deneir; it sits there rather awkwardly. — BadCatMan (Temple of Deneir: fixed. I'm happy now.) — BadCatMan
 * Requests
 * Verdict: Approved as a featured article! — BadCatMan
 * Verdict: Approved as a featured article! — BadCatMan

Plane of Shadow

 * Vote: 2
 * For
 * Moviesign
 * TerrorBlades


 * Against
 * Disclaimer: I wrote most of this article, except the Appearances section. – Moviesign
 * Pros
 * Fairly big article, well referenced, nice infobox, opening quote, covers the changes from 1st to 3.5 edition and has a nice intro to the Shadowfell. – Moviesign
 * Cons
 * No images. – Moviesign
 * Nice infobox image and a gallery of screenshots added by Terrorblades. Thanks! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 16:06, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Requests

Dethek — Approved!

 * Vote: 3
 * For
 * Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters


 * Against
 * Disclaimer:
 * Pros
 * Unusual topic, lots of attention-grabbing images, well referenced, Realms specific. – Moviesign
 * Educational, useful. — BadCatMan
 * Exceptionally well researched, multi-edition citations, great images, overall a very interesting page. Darkwynters
 * Cons
 * Not very long. – Moviesign
 * It's written in present tense, and not all of this seems to be cited. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:33, May 28, 2013 (UTC) Addressed: I have changed it to past tense, removed or altered speculation, and checked and supplied citations. — BadCatMan
 * Requests
 * It would be nice to see some official images that illustrate Dethek writing. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:33, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have added an image of a runestone. — BadCatMan
 * This is after the article was approved, but I added an example from the background image used on some 3rd and 3.5 edition sourcebooks – Moviesign
 * I added an image of a warhammer bearing the runes. — BadCatMan
 * Verdict: Approved as a Featured Article! — BadCatMan (talk) 13:56, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict: Approved as a Featured Article! — BadCatMan (talk) 13:56, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Elemental Plane of Fire — Approved!

 * Vote: 3
 * For
 * Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters


 * Against
 * Disclaimer: I wrote almost all of this article. – Moviesign
 * Pros
 * Fairly big article, heavily referenced, nice infobox, in-universe perspective, nice images. – Moviesign
 * Excellent work, well written, pictured, and detailed. — BadCatMan
 * Expertly researched, extremely detailed, superb article - Darkwynters
 * Cons
 * Baldur's Gate section is kinda lame. – Moviesign
 * This is very Core at the moment, and lacking in Realms-specific material. — BadCatMan (Withdrawn)
 * Requests
 * Can we find more Realmslore relating to the Plane of Fire? — BadCatMan
 * I have supplied some Realms-specific material pertaining to the Plane of Fire. I withdraw this as a Con. — BadCatMan
 * Verdict: Approved as a featured article! — BadCatMan
 * Verdict: Approved as a featured article! — BadCatMan

Wheloon — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: Almost all written by me.
 * Vote: 5 (3 admin)
 * For: BadCatMan, Darkwynters, Moviesign, Eli the Tanner, Jandor
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * A complete and detailed article, a core area of the Realms, covers both sides of the Spellplague, has images. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:29, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well researched and about as thorough as you can get. A fine example. – Moviesign (talk) 03:20, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * How did I not see this page, thank you Eli and Jandor! Professionally written, multi-edition researched, beautifully organized. - Darkwynters (talk) 22:19, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Certainly one of the best examples on the Wiki and an article I often refer back to for reference.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 10:45, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I like the flavour the map, of 1374 DR, gives and would give at the main page.— Jandor (talk)13:50, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * A few related articles I still need to make. — BadCatMan
 * Made 'em. — BadCatMan
 * I changed my mind about red links, they should not be a con. – Moviesign
 * Some paragraphs do not meet the 3-sentence rule and read more like bullet points&mdash;a minor con. – Moviesign (Withdrawn)
 * The 3-sentence rule only applies to whole articles, and is a guideline for whether to include sections or not. It doesn't apply to paragraphs. Some of my paragraphs are a bit small or are one-liners, but only because they cover single, specific topics, which is the purpose of a paragraph. Regardless, I'll try to join a few. — BadCatMan (talk) 04:08, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Adding a few more images, if possible, to help break up the text maybe (minor)--Eli the Tanner (talk) 10:45, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've not been able to find any more of Wheloon itself (some of people of Wheloon or inside their shops, but not the city). I could put up the Temple of Mystra (Wheloon), but didn't think it was particularly necessary. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:45, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict: Approved! Hurrah! — BadCatMan (talk) 08:45, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Realms of the Dead — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * This could be a "Featured Source", if you think it more appropriate.


 * Disclaimer: I have not read this book. – Moviesign
 * Vote: 1
 * For: Moviesign
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * Long, detailed summaries. Tie-ins to almost every corner of the Realms. Work spans every edition. – Moviesign
 * Cons:
 * Not quite finished yet. – Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Summarize last three short stories for the win! – Moviesign
 * I'd like to see an index of references to things that appear in the book, such as at Darkwalker on Moonshae or Realms of Valor. This would be more appropriate as Featured Source anyway. — BadCatMan
 * Verdict:
 * Well, having left it too long, I needed a featured source in a hurry, and this was the closest. Accepted. — BadCatMan (talk) 14:09, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Moved to Featured Source discussion. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:21, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Marsember

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer: I just discovered it was a Featured Article in the past. I haven't looked at it yet.
 * Vote: 1
 * For: Jandor
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * At first glance, it doesn't seem that bad. — Jandor (talk) 16:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Requests:
 * Being a quite popular area of FR (Cormyr, although I'm not that fond of this area yet), we should also look it more thoroughly for possible easy refreshes-updates-enrichment. — Jandor (talk) 16:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Verdict:
 * Verdict:

Mystra

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer: I rewrote most of this article. – Moviesign
 * Vote: 0
 * For:
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * A fairly well-rounded article that hopefully sheds some light on the confusion of the many Mystras. – Moviesign
 * Quite a few nice illustrations – Moviesign
 * Well written and fleshed out, a very important goddess. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Cons:
 * Subject is from pre-Time of Troubles and is therefore 2nd-edition with limited sources, not very modern, and might have limited appeal. – Moviesign
 * Mystryl/Mystra is important to the setting in all her incarnations, and this Mystra's actions continue to have importance (making the Chosen, raising gods, etc.) — BadCatMan (talk)
 * I have laid the foundation, but this article needs fleshing out with information from the novels before it's feature-worthy. – Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Much of the history is based on adventure sourcebooks and not the novels. Please discuss at Talk:Mystra, especially whether this is a con or not. I honestly don't know. – Moviesign
 * Yeah, there's a lot more history and personality to her in the novels. I touched on this at the Talk page. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Someone please add info and flavor from the novels. – Moviesign
 * Verdict:

Church of Ilmater — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer:
 * Why not?!? — Moviesign
 * I wrote this. — BadCatMan
 * Vote: 3
 * For: Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * Well written, extensively researched and documented, and spans all four known editions. – Moviesign
 * Extremely organized and researched - Darkwynters (talk) 02:30, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Image of the broken god is a bit creepy. – Moviesign
 * They all are. :) I need to add another image of Ilmater, from Faiths & Avatars. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Withdrawn, as it no longer applies. – Moviesign
 * Requests
 * To be honest, I was hoping Church of Ilmater would get to be the featured one of the two. It's much longer and more detailed, and I can add more pics. But I still have stuff to add to it. Maybe Mystra should take our deity slot (I still need to examine that)? — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Through the magic of editable wiki pages, this is now the nomination for Church of Ilmater. (I took your response as a request ;) – Moviesign
 * I suggest adding the correct pronunciation of "Ilmater" at the top of the article, since this might be the first thing a newcomer to our site might see. – Moviesign
 * Done. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:18, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as a Featured Article! — BadCatMan (talk) 03:14, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Waukeen — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer: I wrote nearly all of this article except the Harlot's Coin Heresy. – Moviesign
 * Vote: 4 (3 admin)
 * For: Moviesign, Eli the Tanner, BadCatMan, Darkwynters
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * Fairly long article, nice images, full infobox, hopefully pretty complete treatment of the subject. – Moviesign
 * Lovely article, really nice mix of pictures and info. Well cited and looks to be pretty much complete.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:22, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Great story, lots of nice pictures, seems complete, brilliant. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * Visually stunning, organized, well researched. - Darkwynters (talk) 00:59, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Too wordy? Hard for me to judge, since I wrote it :) – Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Any chance you can tell if there is 4th edition info still needed. The history stops at about 1370 DR.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:23, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have very few 4th edition sourcebooks. The only 4th ed. stuff I've seen about Waukeen is listed in the infobox, including her channel divinity prayer. – Moviesign
 * There's nothing new in the core books, at least. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:18, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as Featured Article! — BadCatMan (talk) 08:18, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

City of the Spider Queen — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Eli the Tanner
 * Disclaimer: I have added a rather large amount to this article recently in an effort to get it up to standard.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:17, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Vote: 1
 * For: Eli the Tanner
 * Against:
 * Pros
 * One of the most renowned 3rd edition adventures. Extensive Indexing and a summary. Pretty much complete topic. Realms-centered.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:17, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Possibly a few more entries need to be added to the Index. Still some red links. Submitted primarily to help fill Featured source/article quota.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:17, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * This is more a Featured Source than an article. See my comments there. –Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Advice on in-universe vs out-of-universe summary for products like this. Currently has a hybrid of the two.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 15:17, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Verdict
 * Moved to Featured Source discussion. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:20, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Citadel of Black Ash — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer: I wrote this.
 * Vote: 3
 * For: BadCatMan, Darkwynters, Moviesign
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * Interesting story, unusual location. — Moviesign
 * Quite a few images. — Moviesign
 * An exotic location and with an interesting, varied history, and we don't have any specific locations for Featured Articles yet. It has a great picture to go on the Main Page, which is a good hook for readers. — BadCatMan
 * Nice page organization, multi-edition sources, great visuals
 * Cons:
 * Not as long as most Featured Articles. — Moviesign
 * I allowed for "medium-to-long" when I suggested Featured Article properties at Forum:Featured articles!. — BadCatMan
 * With the recent additions, this is no longer true. — Moviesign
 * Maps that don't actually show the Citadel. :( I suggested a Markustay piece that does. — BadCatMan
 * Added Markustay map, although it doesn't quite jibe with the text description in scale or direction. Still a great image. — Moviesign
 * Requests
 * I'd like more in the way of obscure lore and tidbits that surprise readers. Whether that exists or can be found or not is another matter. But I don't hold that against the article. It's possible to pull a lot more basic information out of the write-up in P&P. — BadCatMan
 * I've made further discussion at Talk:Citadel of Black Ash. — BadCatMan
 * Anything specific you'd like to see? Most of what I omitted probably belongs on other pages, like the church of Gilgeam or the biographies of the individuals. — Moviesign
 * Stuff like that. The priests are getting spells somehow, life and activities at the temple, and plots against outsiders. Populations of clerics and slaves. A lot of small details of construction and architecture. Rather than these points implicit in other sections, make them explicit in dedicated sections. You can really puff out an article by overdoing things like that. :) — BadCatMan
 * Well, I don't want it to be a puff piece ;-) but I have added a few paragraphs that hopefully address your suggestions.
 * Great! It looks lovely and complete! — BadCatMan


 * Verdict:
 * Approved as Featured Article! &mdash; Moviesign (talk) 14:22, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Heralds of Faerûn — Approved!

 * Nominated by: Moviesign
 * Disclaimer: I wrote this. — Moviesign
 * Vote: 3
 * For: Hash, BadCatMan, DW
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * First nominated article about an organization, for variety. — Moviesign
 * Actually, Church of Ilmater was the first. :p — BadCatMan
 * Comment withdrawn. It was late at night... :-/ — Moviesign
 * Total fluff about an aspect of the Realms that is largely ignored, like plumbing. ;-) — Moviesign
 * Yes, it's good to learn about something that's actually so important and integral to the setting, yet so rarely heard about. I didn't even know they they existed until recently, and thought the Cormyrean heralds were just regular messengers and announcers. It kind of makes me want to play one. :) Good work. — BadCatMan
 * Has some images and a couple quotes to break up the wall of text. — Moviesign
 * Well researched and sourced. — Hash
 * Fricken beautiful, great images, extremely well researched, great incorporation on editions. — DW
 * Cons:
 * Hard to find images of an organization. You'd think they would have their own coat-of arms at least. — Moviesign
 * A picture of Herald's Holdfast? There's plan image in the Atlas. — BadCatMan
 * I was going to put that in the Holdfast article. It doesn't really seem representational of the whole organization, and I think it would look out of place in the infobox. Maybe a generic coat-of-arms? There are some nice ones in Power of Faerûn.
 * Lots of red links. — Hash
 * I will be turning some of those blue in the next few days. I'm already working on a sortable table for Heralds (local). — Moviesign
 * Requests
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as Featured Article! — Moviesign (talk) 23:59, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Approved as Featured Article! — Moviesign (talk) 23:59, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Earthfast — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: I wrote this. — BadCatMan
 * Vote: 3
 * For: Moviesign, BadCatMan, Darkwynters
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * A complete dwarven city with some unique features (dwarf headhunters!), compiled from a variety of sources, and with a key role in Faerûnian history (the Horde Wars) and connections to well-known characters (Azoun IV and Alusair). I'm quite proud of it. — BadCatMan
 * Excellent article, good references, uses multiple editions. - Darkwynters (talk) 20:02, August 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * I hope you don't think it another Vast piece. It's got as much to do with Impiltur, and sits on the border between them. — BadCatMan
 * Not as long or as pictured as I would like, but that's really all there is. — BadCatMan
 * Requests
 * Are there any maps that show the location of this city? — Moviesign
 * No, none that I can find. Markustay hasn't even made a guess at it on his maps. — BadCatMan
 * The Forgotten realms Atlas only got this. Any one think of any other source?
 * That map only shows the Earthfast Mountains, not Earthfast itself. — BadCatMan
 * I might have gotten this wrong but isent it suppose to be in those mountain? So I thought this old map might show it... - Terrorblades
 * Yes, it is in the mountains, but the map doesn't show the location of the city of Earthfast. — BadCatMan
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as a Featured Article. — BadCatMan (talk) 09:40, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ilbratha — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: I wrote much of this, expanding on the work of Fw190a8 and an anonymous user.
 * Vote: 3
 * For: BadCatMan, Moviesign, Darkwynters
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * It would be our first featured item page. Covers four editions, a range of sources (including magazine and computer game), and runs all around the Realms. It also has pictures. — BadCatMan
 * Yeah, what you said. Looks good, great story with lots of links to other parts of Faerûn, excellent research. – Moviesign
 * Well organized, excellent citations, grand article. - Darkwynters (talk) 16:57, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Requests
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as a Featured Article. &mdash; Moviesign (talk) 18:20, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as a Featured Article. &mdash; Moviesign (talk) 18:20, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

Tressym — Approved!

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: I wrote much of this, expanding on the work of various other users.
 * Vote: 5
 * For: BadCatMan, Darkwynters, Terrorblades, Eli the Tanner, Moviesign
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * This would be our first featured creature article. Creature feature? It's a long-lasting popular animal of the Realms, with a good range of sources and media, plus pictures. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:25, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Very good example of a creature article, looks like I have a new template to base my articles on :) Also has a good spread of images.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 20:51, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Very organized, includes multiple edition information, interesting creature :) - Darkwynters (talk) 21:48, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Requests
 * Should we make a tabber for this page? Seams like we would brake it abit if we did. - TerrorBlades
 * I don't the see the need. It's long enough that I could scatter the images throughout the article, and didn't need tabs or a gallery, which would just duplicate images. I don't recall tressym appearing in many computer games, but maybe you know of some, TerrorBlades. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:48, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Do we have a consensus on when images are to be placed in an article or in the gallery? I'm guessing my recent orb wraith article is too small?
 * True, and its a lovly creature :)! Not from what I remember either and google only shows mods and DDO... I'll do some digging but I don't expect much, which is sad.
 * Verdict:
 * Approved as a Featured Article! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 00:50, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Approved as a Featured Article! &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 00:50, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Eilistraee

 * Nominated by: Tsammarco
 * Disclaimer: I and User:BadCatMan have rewritten basically all of this article. I've also moved info about Eilistraee's followers and created the Church of Eilistraee page.--Tsammarco (talk) 18:55, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ultimately made by too many users to list. Me, I just wanted to stop fans tinkering with it all the time. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 09:23, August 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Vote: 3
 * For: Tsammarco, Eli the Tanner, BadCatMan, Moviesign
 * Against: Lhynard
 * Pros:
 * The article is greatly improved over its previous versions! (Please don't take my vote against as an insult. I just don't think it is quite ready yet.) ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Eilistraee is an iconic and popular goddess. With her recent return, many will porbably seek information on her.--Tsammarco (talk) 18:55, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, the article includes all the information that has ever been released on Eilistraee, ranging from her background and Ed Greenwood's vision of her role, to the material in sourcebooks and novels, to Ed Greenwood's lore about her, to her rebirth Post-Sundering (even if more should come soon, with the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide).--Tsammarco (talk) 18:55, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * The sections describing Eilistraee include a few quotes taken by novels/sourcebooks, that capture the feeling of the goddess and enrich the text.--Tsammarco (talk) 19:11, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Currently the 8th largest article on the wiki and has clearly undergone a lot of improvement thanks to Tsammarco and BadCatMan. Well referenced and comprehensive.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 11:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I do not think length should really be a factor in featured article. Comprehensiveness, however, is important, and yes, I agree that this article has it. (I also fully agree that the article has undergone great improvement, as I said above.) ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the quotes as far as appearance goes, and they are well-placed. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Insanely popular character with fans of her own. Having such a big-name character as an FA looks good for the wiki and will draw readers. It's very up-to-date too, which will also draw interest from fans interested in her 5th-edition status. — BadCatMan (talk) 09:17, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cons:
 * Red links (mainly in the Servitors section)--Tsammarco (talk) 01:16, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Generally we don't view red links as a negative as they get fixed in the long run.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 11:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Correct. Red links are not a problem. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Includes a lot of discussion of the activites of her worshipers still, which could be moved over to Church of Eilistraee as it doesn't directly deal with the deity (see War of the Spider Queen section).--Eli the Tanner (talk) 11:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've tried to rewrite some parts of the WotSQ-era section from the divine point of view. I included certain events that happened to the followers, because I thought that they were relevant as context to Eilistraee's actions--Tsammarco (talk) 13:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * We've removed a lot of the church lore as it is. I agree; I feel some is necessary for context, particularly where actions of faithful affect the god's fortunes, especially where it leads to her death. (In heaven as it is on earth.) — BadCatMan (talk)
 * In my opinion, the lead section is far too long and should be greatly shortened. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've shortened it a bit. I feel that, given the length of the article, a small intro, briefly touching Eilistraee's personality, goals and history, could be positive for the article and encouraging to readers.--Tsammarco (talk) 16:12, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * A short summary is useful on a very long article. Wikipedia and Wookieepedia have some enormous opening summaries. This is really quite brief in comparison. I've condensed it a bit further (concise phrasing, merged paragraphs). — BadCatMan (talk)
 * I feel that the a featured article should not have as many unknowns or as much speculation. I think it would be better to wait until Ed or WotC have cleared some things up. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've removed most of the speculations and unknown. It should not be long until we get more details, though, through WotC's upcoming sourcebook.--Tsammarco (talk) 16:13, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not a fan of pre-publication lore, but if we don't have it, fans will cram it in or keep asking about it. On such a popular character, it's something fans want to know. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * We do have published information that imply Eilistraee's rebirth, though. It's in Spellstorm, the paragraph saying that Mystra is sharing the Weave with Eilistraee. Ed further clarified on her return--Tsammarco (talk) 11:57, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * There are several non-standard things being done in the infobox. Notes, for example, should go at the end of the article, not within parentheses inline. Otherwise, the infobox looks ugly and cluttered.
 * Moved the note about the Masked Lady title at the end of the article. What should be done about the appearance of the infobox?--Tsammarco (talk) 16:12, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I reduced the current/5e power level to simply "Unknown" (being alive isn't relevant to her power). — BadCatMan (talk)
 * It is, in a sense. Eilistraee's being alive excludes Dead power from the list of the possible options. That's why I included it before.--Tsammarco (talk) 14:57, August 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I dislike the quotes as far as content goes. I think that all quotes like this should be in-universe only, either things Eili is quoted as saying herself or things characters in the game world have said about her, not what sourcebook writers have said about her. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Two of the quotes are in-universe impressions about Eilistraee. The Demihman deities one, I felt that it expressed well one of the reasons of her appeal: her determination in forging her own path, no matter the odds. It could be removed, if needed.--Tsammarco (talk) 16:12, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I prefer quotes to be quotes from characters or in-universe writings too, though there was some precedent for out-of-universe writing with Shalara Swordshigh. — BadCatMan (talk)
 * In general, sourcebooks and articles should not be listed as character appearances, unless they are adventures or story excerpts. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Moved sourcebooks and articles to the Further Reading section.--Tsammarco (talk) 17:15, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * I'd like to see more pictures to break up some of the lengthy tracts.--Eli the Tanner (talk) 11:36, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * All the currently released official art of Eilistraee has been used. Maybe some fan art could be used too--Tsammarco (talk) 13:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not a fan of most fan art. We should really make a wiki wide policy decision about that though. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:08, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've added some more official artwork. There's already one piece of fan-art, added by the creator. I'd also prefer not to use fanart, but we already have Markustay maps, and I can't say anything against a good, accurate work. But I don't want to ask one fan artist over another, when there's so much of it, and don't want a flood of fan artwork coming in. Perhaps we need a procedure for voting on and approving fan art? — BadCatMan (talk) 09:17, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice. For some reason I had completely neglected pre-3e art...--Tsammarco (talk) 12:05, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I request that the sentence with "68%" in it be rewritten because it is jarringly crunchy in the middle of prose. Something like "&hellip;well more than half the time." or "&hellip;more often than not." would be much better. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 13:42, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Moved the info to a note--Tsammarco (talk) 13:49, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Verdict:

Chasme

 * Nominated by: BadCatMan
 * Disclaimer: Made by me, with some help from Moviesign.
 * Vote: 3
 * For: BadCatMan, Darkwynters, Moviesign
 * Against:
 * Pros:
 * A complete and comprehensive article for a classic monster covering four editions, with plenty of images and a good amount of Realmslore from novels, sourcebooks, and comics. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:44, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Article is very organized, uses multiple editions for citation - Darkwynters (talk) 15:26, August 30, 2015 (UTC);Cons:
 * Introduction is a little long. - Darkwynters (talk) 15:26, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Requests
 * Verdict:
 * Verdict: