Talk:Leira

As we've seen under Eilistraee's page, there has been considerable debate over whether or not she's dead (WotC's ill-advised ruling be damned). And I agree; the circumstances surrounding Eilistraee's supposed death are pretty murky, what with home planes and divine essence and all. But Leira's supposed death is even murkier, I believe; we are talking about the involvement of two gods of deceit and illusion (Leira and Mask) and one who aspires to be such (Cyric), after all.

Just for clarity's sake, let me say that I despise Cyric as a character. I feel that he is the biggest Gary Stu in the entire Forgotten Realms universe, and if you look at him, he's actually pretty shallow and one-dimensional. He's like a wannabe Kratos, but without the charm and the believable motivation. He seems to exist purely to kill oodles of gods, like a two-legged virus, nothing more. If I were Ed Greenwood, I'd be very miffed about having my own prized Goddess of Lies and Deceit get stomped on by someone like that.

So naturally I agree with the idea that Leira staged her own death to suit her own mysterious means. Perhaps she and Mask were in cahoots from the beginning. "Hey, Leira! See that mortal upstart Cyric strutting around, trying to be all big and bad?  How about if I pose as a godslaying sword, he'll take me up and come at you, then we'll make it look like you're dead so you can start working behind the scenes and maybe bring him down later on.  Yeah, I know.  We're supposed to be rival Gods of Deceit and all.  But really, this guy's a jerk.  Let's work together and bring him down, just this once.  Whadayasay?"

There may actually be a third option here that no one else seems to have considered yet: Cyric grabbed Godsbane. Cyric took a go at Leira. Leira, being the Goddess of Lies and Deceit, quickly turned the tables on Cyric and struck him down, or imprisoned him, or "Surprise! We're not on my home plane!  We're actually on yours!  Now die, Cyric!"...whatever. Then Leira put on her Cyric mask and took Cyric's place, and she did such a good job of it that she fooled not only Cyric's cults and all the other gods, but she even fooled Lord Ao as well. Whether or not she also fooled Mask (seeing as Mask was directly involved and he knows a thing or two about deception himself) is unlikely, but hey...intrigue!

Is this an actual possibility, or am I completely off base here? BloodyBay from YouTube (talk) 13:58, May 4, 2014 (UTC)