User talk:Pharuan Undearth/Archive02

Lots of space is eaten up by the Talk Page,and a pain to scroll through it all, so i'm moving it if you want to refer back to it here. Pharuan Undearth 22:22, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

yeah...
I was pretty sure he was gonna do that after all of his edits i revised for vandalism. I would gotten it later but i saw a lot of edits to my page so i wanted to see what happened lol. Thanls again. Pharuan Undearth 21:22, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're quite welcome. Zeraktalk 21:31, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

As before...
someone told me to use preview button before i publish im going to give you the same advice if you check your original post the notoc was visible i don't know why. i was, now don't flip out, i guess me and you were editing at the same time and you and i did a double edit of the same thing. check it out if you don't believe me, but your notoc was visible. Pharuan Undearth 06:44, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Elite edits...
Hey Pharuan,

Can I delete the citation and clean-up notes on the Settlestone article? I don't want to delete something until the elite advisors, such as yourself, have given me the go :)

DARKWYNTERS
 * Darkwynters i see no reason why you cannot there are enough references for such a small article. And if the page looks gramatically correct take away the clean-up. Thank you for the compliment btw \('o')/ ~yay. oh to sign your name type the ~ tilda 4 times. Pharuan Undearth 02:54, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan,

Thanks... this wiki rules :) Darkwynters 03:01, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Deszeldaryndun Silverwing...
Hey man. On the page I created, Deszeldaryndun Silverwing, you took out two paragraphs, unlinked everything, took off the source, and marked it as unreferenced. What's up with that? --Drow2626 00:33, August 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually i was asleep at the time one of my friends must've done that believe me i wouldn't unlink half your stuff and delete paragraphs. If i was awake which i doubt cause i passed out at 5 am from sleep depervation, is a double edit, that has happened to me 5 times already if i edit something at the same time as someone else and i hit publish after them it basically undoes what they did. Only explanations i have sorry for that im going to change my password and try to get more sleep. Pharuan Undearth 05:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay. I was just wondering because that seemed llike a really random thing to do. No worries then. --Drow2626 05:28, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Post Spellplague Timeline...
I've noticed you've added several events from here, which is great, and at least in one case (1409 DR) removed the reference to Dragon magazine rather than adding the one from the timeline, which is not great. Why removing an existing, correct, and definitive reference for a web page that only references the same resource? I mean, the timeline web page is just a collection of events from several sources, including the one you removed. I think it's best to cite the ultimate source (instead just the timeline) when such source exists. And cite the timeline web only for events marked BRJ (from Brian James twitter account). If you want to add the reference to the timeline for every event so it's easier to check the web than the magazine, great, but don't remove the other reference, leave both, please! In case you're wondering, it was me who readded the reference in that article, I forgot to log in. Mpj 04:42, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Again I have no problem with people addding or taking away material as long as it is valid or can be referenced. If you check out the "previous" edits you'll see that the original reference was non-existant, it was red and had no link point. So that was the only reason i removed it. Pharuan Undearth 04:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, I see what you mean in the history. Earlier I saw several changes all at once. But it's weird, because I just copied the text that was before, readded it and now it has a valid citation. Check it out. By the way, I just did this as a token of peace, so you don't have to copy & paste the template every time :P Mpj 05:06, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks big dude took me a second to figure it out was testing it with something else but whatever anyway dude no problem like i said it was a non-link as you can see anything i don't do properly i take fully responsibility and apologise, but if i have some proff i try to get you to see my view thanks again and it should make the pages not so long anymore. Again, thanks. Pharuan Undearth 05:29, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Red Tigers/Thradulf's Camp...
Pharuan,

I noticed Thradulf's Camp needed more info, so I decided to find data... which lead to editing the Red Tigers... which actually turned out more fun than the boring Camp... could not find a lot of info on that place... anyway... I messed up the "Organizations in Thradulf's Camp"... can you fix my blunder... it would be great :) Darkwynters 02:38, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah i'll take a look if it hasn't already been fixed. Pharuan Undearth 00:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. not sure if you want the name changed from "Organizations of Thradulf's Camp" to "Organizations in Thradulf's Camp" or not, but i did make the make the main article of it Thradulf's Camp.

Pharuan,

Thanks for fixing the problem :)

Just a funny note... other than this wiki rules!!! My wife is very proud of my posts, she feels I am actually "working" instead of gaming every night!

Second, I see no character stats... so we DO NOT post stats, right... and what else are we not to post. Thanks for your help and any "Wiki" words of wisdom would be most appreciated :) Darkwynters 03:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC}


 * Well one thing try not to make those huge spaces and only one set of tildas is needed. Other than that your doing great. Glad to here someones other half thinks of this as "work", lol. Anyway the question isn't what we don't post but what we do is FR based cannon. D&D cannon is allowed but is trumped by FR information. You can add classes, class lvls those stats are totally cool. Um, anything that isn't FR/DD, which is allowed, is say spelljammer, Greyhawk, ect. are not allowed, unless it somehow crosses over(i.e. - Tears of Selûne). You can add what someone wears and it's stats but you must have it in a seperate section with appropriate tags. Use the preview button to preview your work. That's all i can think of with out a specific item you want to know about. Pharuan Undearth 08:32, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Forgotten Realms Fanon...
Hey, is there a Forgotten Realms Fanon wiki I could visit? --Pinguinus impennis 04:08, August 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, the only one I found has a single page . So not really, you can add things to them to get it started but I recommend you stay here at least for some info. Pharuan Undearth 04:40, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

The Moonsea...
Pharuan,

Is there a way to make the "Locations in Moonsea" at the bottom of the stat sheet link to "Location on the Moonsea" or to just change the actual category name. I have noticed "category" pages cannot be name changed. Also, on the Moonsea page I found the religions in the 3.0 FR Campaign book differ from the "Mysteries of the Moonsea"... is there a way to put both and cite them? Take a look at the Moonsea page for me :)Darkwynters 04:25, September 1, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

P.S. Glad you fixed the "mooshy" novel today >:)


 * Yeah I know that guy is pissing me off with the single space being an entire edit, and he does it like 3 times. Yeah make a redirect page. I'll do it in a bit. Well put down both sets, from each book, of religions and cite them from thier respective source. Unfortunately as i found out during my dragon stint you can't change the name but it can be deleted if you want it to be. You getting better with the sig but still try not to have huge amounts of space else it leaves that werid bar. ;-) Pharuan Undearth 07:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. um what do you mean "Locations in Moonsea" there is nothing like that i don't see it and if you refind it like i said make it redirect Plaguebringer's Blight open my edit switch the words on your page and walaa you have just made a redirect.

Pharuan,

Massive Critical Failure :(

Sorry I created another dumb... useless page... you will just have to look at recent work to see my utter ruin of a catagory page! Darkwynters 16:39, September 1, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters P.S. I am making my responses smaller :)


 * That sig is perfect btw.Don't fret i've made a ton of mistakes everything i've learned by seeing what others have done and mimicing them that's part becoming better. If you don't like it like i said delete it but dont make a ton of random things that need to be delted. That's it your doing great. Pharuan Undearth 17:15, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

E-book Locs...
Do you think there's any way someone could modify the standard reference template to allow the use of e-book Locs? I read all the novels on my iPhone using Kindle and WoTC doesn't imbed the actual page numbers in the text of the books. I'd try myself but my knowledge of HTML coding is limited. The loc could be made into an optional parameter in the template.

Boo Too - &quot;Go for the eyes!&quot; 21:34, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well like you said the kindle and other e-book/e-readers use a location which isn't very helpful when trying to cite a source and leads to general(generic) references like only the book name. I'm sure someone on here is a genius and can figure it out, but the only suggestion i have is if you can download a pdf version which, if you look at my source books, all the pdfs i got were free. Not stolen or hacked but it partly freinds/family and e-friends sending links or 4shared which is file sharing. Thanks for asking but you'd have to modify the reference source to have an extra "area" specifically for e-book Like:[author,year,book name,page number/and/or/loc,publisher,isbn]. If its already sourced, it can be re-affermed and applied to the existing cite but that could take ages, but the new cite could just be loc and later the page number can be added. Pharuan Undearth 00:57, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I guess I'll stick to book references without page numbers Boo Too - &quot;Go for the eyes!&quot; 00:46, September 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that for certain books, like Shadowbane, which is currently only in e-book format, we should add some sort of secondary parameter. It would be fairly simple to do, but the problem is the citation template would have to be something like Template:Cite book/Shadowbane/device, where device is the format used. I don't imagine the Kindle and Nook (not to mention other e-book readers) use the same location system. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 00:58, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sarifal...
I was mulling it over if you want to change back Gwynneth, it's fine as most of my maps name it as such and you can add the Sarifal's map to Gwyn. Pharuan Undearth 07:19, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, you know...
Next time you want to edit a page fine but watch what the hell your editing and use the damn preview button before you publish and yes the revsions i did were spiteful, but reasonbly so. Please you not to new to this so use the preview button you can always change things later. But there is no need to do an exceedingly large amount of info put back in, undo your edit, just undo the previous edit you did and then redo the 'fix'. Be more careful my friend. Pharuan Undearth 23:54, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan,

I am sorry... I saw "independence" was spelled wrong... and fixed it... but since I was checking the recent updates... when I checked back it erased your pictures... thought I added them back into the Yulash page with my last update :(

Plus, I figured Yulash would not be under "Inhabitants of Yulash" category... but I guess I was wrong Darkwynters 02:30, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Laughing Goblin Inn...
Pharuan, I believe there is a picture of this inn in the Forgotten Realms Atlas (I don't have my books with me)... since you're very adept at posting pictures... it might look cool to have it posted :) Again, I'm sorry for messing up the Moonsea pictures you posted and have been utilizing the preview button more Darkwynters 21:50, September 19, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Nope, I just looked through the whole Pool of Radiance section... no inn picture :( Darkwynters 00:21, September 20, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Nah it's no big deal just a bad day that's all and yes the preview button cannot be stressed enough it helps with spelling, placement of pictures, and what not. I don't believe i have the FR atlas. But i'll get it and just peruse the book for a bit, even if it's not there. Might find something i like. Pharuan Undearth 05:55, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah must've glanced over it i got it already.Pharuan Undearth 06:19, September 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright checked it out every cool thing but the inn, sorry dude.Pharuan Undearth 06:54, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, Is there any way you could possibly create a picture of the Tower of Twilight from the FR Atlas and post it as the image... some of the pictures you have posted have been wicked :) Darkwynters 16:45, September 20, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Most certianly i'll do it in a bit. Pharuan Undearth 17:19, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's as "small" and clean as I could make it, I didn't leave the footage as the stables leave a good impression of size as horses normally are about 8 feet high by 7 feet long and thats like a Wulfgar horse. so i removed that and all the extra trees and space. Pharuan Undearth 17:32, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, Hands down... beautiful... looks fantastic... we have the description and the picture to go with the Tower, so readers can see it all :) Excellent job... and I'm glad you incorporated the FR Atlas... loved that book as a kid, and when I found out the writer, Karen Wynn Fonstad, passed away... I think it means a lot to share her work Darkwynters 20:17, September 20, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Fanon...
Can you help me with the new D&D fanon wiki I made? Here's the link:. --Pinguinus impennis 22:30, September 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe, how would you like me to assist/help you.Pharuan Undearth 03:08, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's the link: . Basically, you can make your own characters and monsters there. I realize you're probably busy with other things, but I was hoping that you could go and write a few articles and maybe read some I've already made. Also, do you know anybody else who might be interested in this? --Pinguinus impennis 03:43, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just ask and most will answer your questions/requests.Pharuan Undearth 03:49, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have now posted messages for many of this wiki's major users. Hopefully, I'll get more editors out of all of this trouble! --Pinguinus impennis 03:52, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

The "P" word...
Pharuan,

Thanks for the Settlestone picture, looks GREAT :) I am revisiting ALL my posts... I didn't realize the articles should be in our own words... I have crafted my pages with different sources, but need to go back and check to make sure I did not copy word for word... you can learn a lot by reading the HELP pages :) Darkwynters 20:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

P.S. Can you check the Copper dragon page... did I do the "undo" correctly... that is not a FR dragon, right?


 * Yes you did good job on the undo, but you don't necessarily need to put it in your own words especially if its really short, i.e. how do your reword a 5 word sentence, seriously. Yes i saw the addition earlier only on the dragon page didn't follow up for some reason. Keep doin your thing dude. Pharuan Undearth 20:42, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ain't broke...
What seems to be the problem with pearls as opposed to pearls? Why fix what ain't broke? Moviesign 21:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Exactly dude, what ain't broke is the pearls links, there's no need to add unnecessary wordage to a article when all you need to do is add a letter and brackets. The only reason to do these |  is something like The piper. Not for same word extensions. Pharuan Undearth 22:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. do you really need to link every mineral or metal in the entire wiki. That is a bit excessive.Pharuan Undearth 22:21, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Seems like a waste of your valuable time to save a few bytes, but hey, knock yourself out. I can't criticize anyone for anal retentiveness when I have a touch of it myself. At least this isn't as bad as having the extra space after the period at the end of my sentences removed. LOL (That wasn't you, was it? O_o) ;) Moviesign 22:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Purple Rocks...
Ok, isn't douchebag a bit strong? I removed "half the location info" because the way you put it, it wasn't working and I couldn't find the error (by the way, it was "religions" instead of "religion"). I didn't bother to put it back because it wasn't used at the moment. And I didn't change any god's name. Tempus is called Tempos in those locations (check ). Mpj 02:38, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes it is a bit mean but im mean seriously like 5 edits later then i could've undone no douche is fine when you have 3 edits about the same damn thing(wording), i am sorry for calling you that but comeon. And yes i saw that mistake with the religion(s) thing on the next edit. My bad, and as far as i know there is only 3 count them, three or four times that i've seen Tempos, in all the Drizzt books Wulfgar says Tempus btw. Pharuan Undearth 03:01, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't though it was so important to have the empty keywords in the template. I should have put them back just to not step on your shoes. About Tempos/Tempus, yes, it's a minor detail, but hey, the unique flavor of the Realms is in those details. And it was referenced... (peace, by the way. It was a sad coincidence that we were editing the same article at the same time). Mpj 03:11, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * And I'm sorry if i seem abrupt it my imediate response(see above). No it fine as long as it's referenced i cannot refute proof so sorry for stepping on your shoes my friend. It's happening more frequently, duel editing can be bad. Again I'm trying to not gun down people anymore and this is a everyone flavor editing site. Pharuan Undearth 06:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Prestige Classes...
Pharuan, I think I will ask this before I go insane... Are these actually Forgotten Realms related? Champion of Gwynharwyf, Defender of Sealtiel, and Fist of Raziel are Dungeons & Dragons classes, but there is no Gwynharwyf in the Realms pantheon. Should we leave them alone? Thanks :) Darkwynters 17:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Um i don't see why not, as far as i can see they use D&D source material so it's ok ... not great but still fine. These classes are mainly that classes which as far as i know are frowned upon but not deleteable if i were you i'd ask Fw190a8 what to do i mean they've been around for about 2 yrs or so, so i guess thier kosher. Pharuan Undearth 05:03, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Imagez...
Hay, just wondering... the images of gods that i have uploaded seam to be down sized and get less clear when i open them on the site... is that just me? Could you help me with this? Compare: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sune_symbol.jpg to http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/FR_ART/HolySymbols/Sunesymbol.jpg. Is it just me? Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  19:42, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * i think it was ...hm i reuploaded it and it seems fine um oh yeah i need to stop touching the button lol i keep reverting i forgot which one i originally chose its the pic itself not you. As long as it looks nice on the main page Sune, which it does, then its all good. Pharuan Undearth 19:51, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm ok well thats good then ^^! I'll see about uploading other images that are nicer ^^ Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  20:23, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Banning!...
Hello again ^^! Just a short question! How do i go about petition a baning? (If i wrote that wrong i mean how to ban a person or start a baning?) Like this person: "http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/137.205.13.203 " Not this person xD: Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  19:04, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Erm ok nvm i was given an awnser ^^! Have a nice day ^^! Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  19:15, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well to answer anyway for the hell of it i think memeber like us are the only ones who can get banned i think an i.p. lock out could be p[ossible but like you already did as zerk or Fw. Pharuan Undearth 23:56, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, ok well a Ip lock out would be very helpful... hmm now that i think of it, a IP lockout/ban is possible alot of places that have public computers are often banned from edits becourse of some one else who is an ass hole... Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  00:27, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Love domain?...
Hi again! It starts to feel like I'm bugging you a lot, Sorry! But i have a question! This "Love Domain" I cant find where to look for info about it and, me and Darkwynters where talking and it might be Mongoose material! If it is should i add it? Or better yet, please tell if you know where i might find more info :D! Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  20:39, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright i see that it's a varient by d20, which isn't cannon imo and also i think its a play on seduction domain if there is one, i see it mentioned a couple of times. Any question you have i'll answer to the best of my abilites dude. This is my suggestion if it has only...lets say..15-25 pages attached and if any of them use source material look for it or tell me i'll be back at 8 pm EST. IF none of them do take it out if Fw Or Zer made or edit them adding the love domian i trust thier judgement that it is legit. Pharuan Undearth 16:34, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Erm sorry but i gott an answer about where i can find it right here: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Love_domain if you could help that would be grate! I'm still unsure on how to make it :-/! maybe i should ask them... Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  17:06, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Pteranadon...
Nah mate its fine, i was dead tired last night so i forogt to look for the creature template after that edit i crashed. Thats how you get more edits add the info box then find info and then refrence it. boom 3 edit/types in one shot. Pharuan Undearth 16:45, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, I am glad... I spent sometime fixing that page... and then realized you had edited it, good thing I saved it and then added your edit :) Plus, I was also tired of the spelling error guy!!! Darkwynters 18:39, October 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Don't we all i think though he is a user who wasn't signed on i think. Pharuan Undearth 21:03, October 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, I think he was confused with the Pteranodon from the Monstrous Compendium Forgotten Realms Appendix (MC3) by TSR :) That is why I decided to check it out myself!!! Darkwynters 21:11, October 13, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * was he right or wrong with the speeling and info. and what did you find.Pharuan Undearth 21:14, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, Nice picture on Agatha's Grove :) As for the Pteranadon, I do not like the line, "to avoid confusion with the real world animal"... I mean, how do we actually know this is why they changed the name... and for the most part... who cares!?! But (takes a breath) I guess I will let it lie :) Darkwynters 22:13, November 1, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Again my friend thank you, yeah i saw that and i guess it makes sense, but as you i'll leave it until i can find something to dispute it. I laugh at how much i've delt with that one page not editing but talking about it. Its cool. Pharuan Undearth 23:05, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Drakes...
Pharuan, I think you should look into the Articles nominated for deletion page... it seems ALL the drakes are in this category... when I try to edit them... I cannot see the Deletion link?? Unless someone decided to delete the Ironwyrm golem or Magma drake, but these pages actually seem okay *shrugs* Darkwynters 21:25, October 20, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Uh-oh looks like some messed up coding going on. Which is beyond my powers to change.


 * Oh i found a short term solution it is a bad link. that it might be the book possibly. Again i fixed it just don't add The Book of Dragons.


 * Lol too retarded. Pharuan Undearth 01:10, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * The problem was that when the deletion template was added to Template:Cite book/Draconomicon: The Book of Dragons, it was added outside the &lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt; tags, meaning that whatever pages used the template were added to the deletion list as well.


 * I've removed the deletion template from that template, as it's the proper template to call (full title) when citing that book. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 01:37, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, Nice!!! I figured that might be the problem... because I saw you delete the book and then saw all the drakes in that category... of course, I had no idea how to fix it :) Excellent job and great Rassalantar pictures!!! Darkwynters 05:06, October 21, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * BTW Thks man, i love "maps" even more if thier detailed otherwise you can sorta guess where it is but be off by a lot, i know where Stump Bog is supposed to be but never seen it's actual location it would be in the Rassalantar pics. I'm at a loss. Plus, i gonna add some more later tonight or Real early tommorow like 1-2am here so....5-6 am wiki time. thks again man and keep on adding cats it racks up the edits. Try making some pages too. Pharuan Undearth 02:22, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Zhentarim leader...
In the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide (page 282) says that Manshoon is still their leader (although it is kinda confusing). So.. do you have any source more up to date than that for the change in the article? Just curious. Mpj 18:01, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

First and foremost hello, how are you?, lol. Anyway as far as i understand it that "Manshoon" the orginal is dead, while Fzoul Chembryl is/was the current leader of Zhentarim. If you want i'll change it to Manshoon(clone) and have Fzoul as former. Cause i mean with all the lore, Manshoon made tons of clones and as of now all but one Manshoon clone is dead, Orbakh, even the Manshoon who went to the Zhent, and he, Orbahk, isn't the leader as you should've read. So the actual leader as of now is "Unknown". Pharuan Undearth 03:32, November 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * where are my manners :P, hi Pharuan. It's just that in the zhetarim entry the book I referenced says "Leader: Manshoon" but, yeah, the text mixes it up in the Orbakh part. I was just curious if you had something more clarifying, that's all. I'm not complaining :P Mpj 04:39, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

License...
Hay! I'm just wondering what license should i add for any images from the Legend of Drizzt Omnibus Comic? Terrorblades - This is recorded live at  22:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * If its the images and its under Wizards umbrealla then use the free images act tag. As far as i know thats the only one we use most of the images i upload are from one map or another but i have never claimed them to be mine or am i making a profit from using them. If your doing the same make sure its not under any infringement laws but i can garentee i wont tell them if you don't ;-P. Pharuan Undearth 05:58, November 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I'm not sure who owns them! The Copyright thing sees that no part of it can be used for any reason except if given written permission by "Devils Due Publishing"... Except for review purposes! But the images have to be usable under fair use, i mean... besides we have alot pics from the series on the wiki... dont think they have any copyright info on them tough :-/? Should i ask Zerak? You would tell on me :P? Terrorblades  - This is recorded live at  15:51, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Memnon...
Pharuan, If you have a moment, please check out the Memnon page and make sure I edited it correctly... I did not see a reason for the Memnon (city) page, and found someone had linked the name... I would still like you to check and see if the deletion of Memnon (city) will not delete the Memnon page. Thanks Darkwynters 20:27, November 11, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Nah what you did is fine either way is ok but haveing no is a way to show that this is the way it is used the most (i.e. Underdark and Underdark (sourcebook).)It won't effect what you did. If you feel uncomfortable you can always have it become a redirect but i like this better. Pharuan Undearth 03:52, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, one word: Sweet! and thanks :) Darkwynters 05:22, November 12, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Religion vs. Religions parameter...
I've just fixed the location template so that it accepts the religion OR religions parameter, so hopefully that won't be a problem any more. Let me know if you come across any other coding issues like that. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 16:27, November 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah i was finding that only religion would work, really confusing. But i leave them alone now. Thats for fixing it bro. Pharuan Undearth 17:50, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes sir...
Yes all reference points should be at least aluded to if not stated, what you did was excellent. It specifically points out people and places from differnt sources. Great sectioning and what not. Love it more eidts. Pharuan Undearth 13:21, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, Thanks!!! Darkwynters 20:23, November 25, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Ogre Mage...
Pharuan, I hate to be a butt... but I think you put a picture of an Ogre mage as the merrow... check out this link: [] :) Plus, I wonder if there is a way to incorporate the Ogre list with the Giant list... and maybe the Oni, because all ogres are giant-kin, but right now the merrow says ogre and the ogre page says giant?!? Give me your input :) Darkwynters 19:29, November 26, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters P.S. I think your merrow picture would look great under the Oni mage or Ogre Mage (Which it should be called) page as a 2nd edition picture!!!


 * Its alright in the book I got it from it was under merrow information so it cool. Um i have no idea why Orges and Giants aren't allreay combined (lists i mean) seeing as they are giant-kin. I fixed merrow btw so it actually doesn't contradict itself. I forgot how to addd pages together I'll try to do it after work tommorow, at around 8-830 is when i can attend to it until then. Look around to see if you can do it i know it can. I've seen it done so theres got to be a way. Anyway thks again Wynters have a good night or good day.Pharuan Undearth 05:52, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Pharuan, why don't you use the Ogre mage picture you used for the merrow on the Oni mage page... I loved that pic from the Monstrous Manual... I mean it is only 2nd edition and we should just change everything to 4th edition, to "modernize" the wiki... I mean there is earlier editions but let's just forget about them... sorry just a little rant I've been saving for a while :) Anyway, I still think that picture deserves to be on the wiki! 09:35, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Shou Lung map...
Hi Pharuan,

I saw a Shou Lung map on the Kara-tur page that you added:

http ://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/d/d1/Shou_Lung.jpg (space added to avoid pasting the whole map)

Sorry to bother you, but could you tell me where you found that map? It looks like 3.0/3.5 map artwork, but I haven't come across that before.

Thanks! Bumpycat 10:18, November 28, 2011


 * One word Markustay. He has more detailed maps unlike the ones given to us by Wizard and if you dont trust 3rd party maps well look at them and see that there is no homebrew areas and old areas which are important are readded. He has a ton of maps you can download to do research or help others (like me) and help them explore  Toril like no one else, except  Volo. Pharuan Undearth 06:23, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wolfwere...
Pharuan, Thanks to "fixing" the Wolfwere page :) It might changed again... I do have a question: I just looked through the Monster Manual II and cannot find wolfwere in the book??? on page 127 or any pages... I might be wrong, but just checking :) Darkwynters 06:21, November 29, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * There you go its first edition, on the same page as wolf-in-sheep's-clothing ~ Wolfware ~ Worm on page 127 of Monster Manual II 1st edition. Pharuan Undearth 06:28, November 29, 2011 (UTC) if you can't find it, ~sigh~ i dont know. Pharuan Undearth 06:28, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

hey dude...
Whats up with u removing a ton of pics and then readding them or removing them entirely and then adding the "original" ones. Just curious thats all. Pharuan Undearth 07:49, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * btw happy holidays.Pharuan Undearth 05:48, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * The images I am adding are of higher quality—quite simply, they look better. ➳ Quin 06:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Notes perchance...
Dude first off your from Jersey so I love ya, but seriously the help page is only a guideline, you don't follow it to a T. Like how we don't use the ¦ ¦ any more we use. Use and modify is the name of the game. Any non-text cited source is considered a note, i.e. book¦page number is a note if your uncomfortable with saying such then mark it as a source instead. Plus I'm going to go through that book tonight and make actual references. Again sorry to piss in the pond but has to be done. Pharuan Undearth 00:43, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

B) The Help:Citing sources page is more than just a guideline; it's more the rules for the wiki. If you don't follow them, you're no better than the unregistered user who contributes unreferenced material.
 * A) Don't ever judge someone on (1) where they live (and any preconceived idiocies that you think are associated with that location) and (2) what they claim is true online.


 * That said, please follow the wiki policies. &lt;/rant&gt; Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 00:53, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rules are meant to be bent but not broken, again grow and adapt, learn to become better. theres no reason to belittle me my friend. Making assumptions is the way you make friends. What do "they" claim online. Just because i add a page w/o references doesn't mean i won't find it later so the guidelines don't always help with the flow. Thanks for saying im worse than unregistered users. I see you eyeing an admin spot hence the moderator attitude, but unlike you. I would be a loose admin and help when asked and suggest ideas rather than state dogma. Pharuan Undearth 03:22, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * In order:
 * "Rules are meant to be bent but not broken" : That may be true of life, but that's not true in a wiki. The rules are there for a reason; they set a standard that all pages should follow, to keep the chaos at a minimum.
 * I was not belittling you. You made an assumption that I was simply correcting you on. I'll admit I went overboard (when I read it the first time, it looked to me like you were condescending because I claim to be from Jersey, rather than trying to show appreciation).
 * The bit about pages without references was meant to be a comparison, to show that a page not using the standard format is just as frustrating as finding a page without references. Not once did I say one was worse than the other, just that both were bad.
 * I have no desire to be an administrator. I've gone down that road before (albeit in a forums), and I don't want to go there again. The reasons for my "attitude" are that I try to be a rules-follower, and I dislike people who don't follow the rules, even when it's done innocently. Please don't misconstrue my formal language as being condescending or hostile; it's simply what I fall back to when I'm thrust into (or thrust myself into) a conflict. Cronje (talk &sdot; contribs) 03:38, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * That is much appreciated and less "hostile" :P. I guess keeping chaos to a min is an ideal situation. Yes I was trying to connect and have a vibe because were both from jersey. Ahh, both bad gottcha. Rules-follower = admin material imo. Thanks for being kinder this time, dude. Have a good holiday if we don't talk till after. Pharuan Undearth 04:18, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan & Cronje, I'm glad you guys settled your difference of opinions... both of you attribute a lot of Realms knowledge and information to this wiki :) Darkwynters 05:00, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

you too...
Thanks for leaving the note Wynters your contibutions aren't trifling by any standards dude. Was onna leave this anyway, have a good holiday my friend. Pharuan Undearth 05:33, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pharuan, you have a fantastic holiday :) Darkwynters 09:27, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters

Congratulations...
Pharuan, you have over 6000 edits!!! Darkwynters 19:13, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters
 * thanks congrats on ur 1500, your well on your way. Hell you've eaten up most of the category edits so your leaving very little for me to do my friend, lol. Pharuan Undearth 21:26, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

well now...
just wanted to wish you happy holidays hash. Pharuan Undearth 05:49, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks Pharuan. You too. My Holiday wish is to have the ability to come work here more often. hashtalk 14:38, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Therra Arkanak...
Pharuan, have you heard of Therra Arkanak and if you have... the picture presented does not look like a Forgotten Realms picture. Maybe she is in Unclean, which I have not read... she and Szarr Tzun are not in Spellbound Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition, or the Unapproachable East (sourcebook)... Plus, I definitely know that picture under Tzun is NOT this character (if he even exists), and someone (the created of the page) made a wiki, which just happens to have the very same data that is on the Tzun page... hmmm... Sorry, I'm like a bloodhound sometimes... please check into these for me, my good man! Darkwynters 06:46, December 14, 2011 (UTC)Darkwynters


 * Well as far as i can tell i did change the picture of Szarr Tzun to the actual one if, which i believe he is real, the original one was of a blurry Aznar Thrul. I agree that picture of Therra Arkanak doesn't look Realmsish but there are some fan pics which are accepted as "cannon" though probly not this one. I too have not read "Unclean" yet. But i dont think there will be any actual pictures in this book. I like to keep it out till im told(Admin) that im retard for not being smarter(then i snicker). Anyway thanks again for asking me, being intense about these things is a plus btw, it helps you to learn. And feel free to ask me anything, at anytime bro, goodnight or gooday. Pharuan Undearth 08:01, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I need to make it overly clear that I'm using the Mass Market PaperBack Edition of Silverfall, Not the hardcover edition or anything else. So any of the edits I make with information from Silverfall will be from the Mass Market PaperBack Edition of Silverfall, using the Mass Market PaperBack Edition of Silverfall page numbers. That is what the MMP in the reference stand for.

Now, if you feel you must re-edit each of my Silverfall edits to whatever edition of the book your using(and I'll note your not changing the reference to reflect this) then guess you can have fun doing that. But it does seem like a waste of time to change all the page numbers just as you have a different edition then the one I do.

So if you feel like you must change Manycherries wine, as well as all my other Silverfall edits, well, guess you will have fun doing that. (Bloodtide 22:56, December 14, 2011 (UTC))


 * That was not my original intention I was using a different source then you were so sorry the constant revisions, when I saw the MMP on the other edit I said to myself damn he's gonna hate me. Sorry for doing that wine reference again. I looked at the MMP version and it has much smaller pages then my version, so again I'm sorry. Asking for forgiveness, Pharuan Undearth 23:32, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I do know...
that EST and ATZ are different, duh, theres a hour difference. The fact that he lives in Rhode Island means hes like us EST, not a single place in the US is under ATZ time. there are only 6 times zones for America, Eastern, Central, Mountian, Pacific, Alaskian, Hawiian. That's the first reason and actually the only reason i edited his page. Plus i edit user pages all the time and if your really worried about it you should of yelled at me a long time ago, plus i've had this discussion with the admins here already they gave me the ok to "make" and "edit" user pages(i.e. - tag admin pages and just clean-up in general). Hell ask Wynter i helped begin his User page, i give them the template and they fill it out. Pharuan Undearth 03:15, December 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cronje & Pharuan... First... I know nothing about time zones :) Second, Pharaun did help me start my profile page. Personally, I think minor edits are okay as long as it fixes errors, like links or citations. This is a huge wiki and I think the best idea is edit and if someone doesn't like your edit... leave it alone, unless there is serious proof such as sourcebook material. For example, Cronje changed an undo I did this week... but it really was not important. I could have changed it back... but in reality... I only edited Icingdeath because it was from an unregistered user :) The truth is... we all like or love the Forgotten Realms and we're ALL very OCD, but we need to work together as a team, because there is a lot of work to be completed and fighting over time zones is not really that important. You're both extremely excellent editors... down-right admins in my opinion... work together! Sorry about the novel :) Darkwynters 06:12, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The pictures...
Are nice and great and all but I'm thinking you might want to actually name the pictures instead of leaving them as x31838as1e.jpg or what ever it makes them easier to track btw. Pharuan Undearth 21:59, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

dude your awsome...
seriously great crest renderings i was gonna do the same but yours are ten times better than what i was gonna do. Continue with the rest of them on the map i too have it as well and well its a bit dark so not so good for rendering imo. Nashkell gonna be a pain in the ass mate unless you can tell what those beasties are. As far as i can see there are only 5 left on there to do Baldur's Gate already done, though a bit small. Pharuan Undearth 02:55, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

thanks, Nice to get some feedback, yeah nashkel next...i think they are boars, but im not sure. Once ive finished nashkel and baldurs gate, i'm gona start doing the crests for the factions, like flmaing fists etc.

Thomaslove92 09:57, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

83.248.32.95 11:47, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * wispter* http://www.mocagh.org/bioware/baldur-map.jpg *wisper*

May I Say...
I am deeply impressed with your crests, may I say I'm astounded that the Nesk flag has 3 boar heads. And thanks for making all of them dude your one of the few who do self renders good job and keep it up. Pharuan Undearth 17:57, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Glad to hear you like, its always nice to get feedback. As for the nashkel crest, boars do seems a little odd. The map i used for reference is here... http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/File:Volos_map.jpg pretty nifty map of the sword coast. Thomaslove92 18:13, January 27, 2012 (UTC)