Template talk:Canon

Thoughts?
Thoughts on this as a replacement for Video game? In action at my user page. This is just a rough take that lacks some functionality, but this is generally how I envision the look of the template. The benefit of this template is two-fold: it takes up significantly less screen real estate than Video game, and it allows us to consolidate all the Video game variants into one template. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 06:38, April 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I like it. It's more discreet than the equivalent, NWN, and the game symbol is easily recognisable, whereas the box image is unnecessary. We don't have a consistent style for page labels, however, so when we do, this would probably be changed to whatever style is ultimately adopted. — BadCatMan (talk) 07:25, April 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I like it also, more than the previous version. However, for me it actually takes up MORE screen height than the previous version, so I don't know that it satisfies your original goal. ~ Lhynard (talk) 17:19, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * Odd. What resolution are you using? --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 10:41, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Lacking icons
Regarding Blood & Magic: the solution for an image here is going to have to be either a) crafting an icon of sorts, b) using cover art, or c) using a generic icon. This also applies to other older games, I guess. I'll see what I can do. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 10:41, April 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * I had some ideas for a B&M icon: an obelisk or a foundation stone from the game. I have screenshots I can tinker with. Mostly, I just realised we didn't have a template for B&M, so I decided to use yours as it was adaptable. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 10:59, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Parameters
I replaced  and   with a single unnamed parameter, but didn't do anything else. Note that all the  statements need to have the same choices, but right now the last one has   which the others don't have. I would also add a  to each of the switches in case the template is called without an argument, or someone commits a typo. Let me know if you want me to make any further changes or if you want to flex your template muscles. ;-) &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 15:26, April 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Thank you. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 15:33, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Categorization
The current canon templates place articles in game-specific articles. Is this something that should be continued? Personally, I don't really see the value in maintaining, say, Category:Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide. Especially since we don't categorize articles based on source in any other case than with video games. To me, these categories seem like a relic of the wiki's 2007 era, and I would be in favor of removing them entirely. --Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 16:20, April 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree. ~ Lhynard (talk) 05:26, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

How do I get new game template to work?
Hello everyone! I have tried to add a template for Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse, but it does not seem to work. Can anyone help me out and fix it or let me know what the problem is? Thank you very much! Daranios (talk) 20:07, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey! Great work recently. I've added a lot of video games to this template and the stuff under the hood, so I'll add the one for AQ:tGC. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 20:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Should work now by typing:


 * ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 20:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks a lot! Daranios (talk) 18:32, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Removal
I propose that we remove all video game-related canon templates from the wiki. Over the past years, as more games have become released, an increasing amount of video game sourced lore has been integrated into the overall Forgotten Realms Wiki canon. While video games are lower on the canon hierarchy, they are still considered a valid source that has merits unto itself. Marking video games related articles with intrusive banner templates does not serve the flow of a wiki article, its appearance, and is considered to be intrusive by some.

In the cases where canon sources higher in the hierarchy conflict with information from a video game source, I believe we should (as we always do) add an appropriate note explaining the difference, or if needed, create a specific canon-conflict template.

If there is a general consensus, I would like to archive this page and remove all existing video game templates from the wiki. I would be happy to hear everyone else's feedback on this matter. Ruf (talk) 11:28, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Wholeheartedly support it. I see no purpose in the template as where the lore is sourced from would still be there via citations and appearances. -Artyom.pavlov (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree 100%, as this is redundant. We don't do the same for other sources or adventures (which are far more troublesome in terms of openness). Considering WotC are working very closely with video game creators (and even have since back to TSR when they had in-studio writers), this is a must. I think only one regular editor supports this, whilst everyone else is against it, so lets squash this as soon as possible. ~ Possessed Priest (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I think the template is unnecessary and has been for a long time. Support removal. Ir&#39;revrykal (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I am also in favor. WotC has such a wide variety of licensed content now that singling out video games as a uniquely problematic class of sources makes very little sense. If there is a desire to continue flagging video games, I think it would be cleaner to move the template to an in-line [canon] superscript rather than a banner, but even that seems unnecessary as long as we’re using notes to flag potential canon conflicts. Arodp88 (talk) 12:25, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


 * You know what, you all make some very fine points, so I agree to the proposal, switching my earlier abstaining. However, I would retain the template itself, as it is still useful for adapted material and confirmed non-canon material that we still need to cover for whatever reason, or else haven't moved out yet. The old Non-canon template could be merged with this one. ~ BadCatMan (talk) 12:34, 14 June 2023 (UTC)