Talk:Iggwilv

Even so...
This page should be reverted as there is very little realms lore on her the only lore i found was what i provided. Not only that she is a ruler of a layer of the Abyss that good sir is a cross-realm spaning maw of hell. Which includes the forgotten Realms if i must i will combe through the greyhawkishness and leave only actual cross-realm information and realm specific lore. I do not wish to do a rewrite which would take ages to do btw. Pharuan Undearth 04:11, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Retcon?
Is it really correct to say that Tasha and Iggwilv were "retconned" to be the same person if they were never explicitly stated to be different characters? Is there a pre-Dragon #359 source that says that they are different people? If not, I don't think the note on the retcon is necessary. ― Sirwhiteout (talk) 15:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree and was wondering the same thing. This is more of a "plot twist" or "reveal". ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It was the best word I could think of at the time. And I think it still is: everyone would've considered Tasha and Iggwilv to be separate characters (and really, no two unrelated characters should need to be explicitly stated to be different), until Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk equated them. Then the history of Tasha needs to be reinterpreted as the history of Iggwilv and/or vice versa, and really, that's what a retcon is, a retroactive application of continuity, not a change in past information. "Plot twist" doesn't work for me, it implies a set story for the character(s) that doesn't exist, and besides, it's not a verb. "Reveal" bugs me as it implies a secret being disclosed, that it was planned all along, which obviously isn't true. And I added the note during and because of the argument among the twitterati blaming Gygax for things about the character that were the result of a merger done decades later by other writers. So the stronger term is a necessity for getting the point across. BadCatMan (talk) 16:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Good explanation and reasoning. I think that you swayed me to the other side. ~ Lhynard (talk) 16:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I speak with the voice of wisdom. :) Even after midnight, it seems. :o BadCatMan (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Usually. :) (I still think that you are wrong about shamans/shukenja. :P ) ~ Lhynard (talk) 00:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)