Talk:City Watch (Waterdeep)

Members with levels
Hmmm, interesting BadCat... not sure how I feel about it... the page looks nice... the cats... hmmm... could be helpful... or be a lot of work... so would Do'Urden, the organization, have level cats if they had, for example, 8th level clerics as members in 2e... so the page would go under Clerics of 8th level (2e)? - Darkwynters (talk) 05:09, May 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * It was something I was experimenting with, I just stopped for lunch and chores for a while, hence I left it hanging. I'm still trying different approaches, and planned to start a conversation about it when I had some ideas. I might as well do that now. :)
 * I realised that, although we have classes and levels for specific, named NPCs, we don't have something similar for generic NPCs, which would be useful for GMs. Say, a random, unnamed member of Waterdeep's City Watch gets involved, what level and class is she? That kind of information is often buried in sourcebooks, monster manuals, and adventure modules, and generally hard to find out on a cursory search. So, I wondered if we could include it here.
 * This wouldn't include named, specific NPCs, btw. Just the redshirts and mooks of the organisation. :)
 * So, my ideas:
 * Put class & level in with the ranks and titles table. It's neat and tidy and correlates nicely. However, I felt that the class and level information should go in the infobox, as it does it in the Person template, and as all crunch does. Putting it anywhere in the main article would bend the "no crunch" rule too much and blur that division.
 * An appendix section for crunchy stuff. Also neat and tidy, but could set a precedent for growing quantities of crunch.
 * Insert a Template:Person in a section of an Organization page (as I currently have here) with class tables for each level of NPC. It's quick and simple, but it would distort pages too much if the infoboxes clash (a long one will push a second infobox further down the page).
 * Expand the options of Template:Organization] to include the class*, ref*, and rules lines from Template:Person. This is probably the neatest and most reliable option (I was just about to work on it), but may make Template:Organization too big and unwieldy.
 * Develop separate pages for unnamed NPCs, just like regular named NPCs. For example, Unnamed City Watch patrolman with its own infobox for stats, sections for uniform, description, equipment, pictures. Then another like Unnamed City Watch sergeant with all the same. And so on. Or, instead of unnamed, call them "Generic". This increases the workload and spreads information around, but doesn't really change any existing practices.
 * And yes, I thought it would be nice to have generic NPCs appear in the categories. Say you look for 1st-level fighters and see they're Watch patrolmen and such. Or you look for inhabitants of Waterdeep and see that, of course, Watch captains are among them.
 * I'll leave it for now, but thoughts anyone? — BadCatMan (talk) 06:07, May 6, 2014 (UTC)