Category talk:Oni magi

We have a duplicate category here with Category:Ogre mages. We need to decide which one to go with for the wiki. Ogre mage currently redirects to Oni mage. FWIW, Category:Images of oni mages is the corresponding image category.

~ Lhynard (talk) 01:44, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

P.S.: By some counts, that was my 20,000th edit!


 * Congrats!
 * We discussed this a bit at Talk:Wu-haltai language. Whether they're called "ogres mages" or "oni mages" depends on which edition and campaign setting it's in. In 1e/2e/3e, they're ogre mages, or oni mages in eastern settings. However, in 4e, they're oni mages, also mistakenly called ogre mages. Since we have to go with the most recent official name, the category and associated page name should be whatever 5th edition uses. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:56, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * I forgot about that discussion! ~ Lhynard (talk) 06:01, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * So, 5e calls them simply oni, but says that they are also called ogre mages and that they come in blue and green varieties.


 * Oni mage it is then. I'll make the change tomorrow or the next day, unless someone beats me to it.


 * ~ Lhynard (talk) 06:12, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, it might be including/merging some of the other oni in the oni family, or at least one colour of common oni. Since the oni page should cover the whole family (common oni, go-zu oni, me-zu oni, and oni mage), I agree, "oni mage" should be the new title and category. But should it be "oni mages" or "oni magi"? :) — BadCatMan (talk) 06:23, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * :) I personally prefer "magi" because "-s" for plurals makes English boring, but I've only seen "mages" in the books. ~ Lhynard (talk) 07:12, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Me too. Indicative of the dumbing down over the editions, 1e and 2e use "magi", while 3e uses "mages", and 4e avoids talking about them in the plural. I think we can go either way on the plural. Regardless of what 5th edition uses, WotC don't rule us in grammar. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 08:00, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Good to hear! ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:52, April 5, 2017 (UTC)