Talk:Alignment

Having completed the nine major alignments and this "master" alignment page, it might be nice to add a section to each for "notable &lt;alignment&gt; characters" which will serve as a list of good example of alignment stereotypes. This might well have to wait until more characters articles are completed. Fw190a8 09:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

4E alignments
Is it ok to add a note about the drop in double-axis use in 4E books? My plan is to add a page for Evil and Good explaining how they mix morality and ethics from Neutral Evil and Lawful Evil for Evil, Neutral Good and Chaotic Good for Good, and a simple redirect to Neutral for Unaligned. Mpj 17:17, October 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure. From my point of view, I think it's a good idea to explain the differences between 4e alignment and previous editions! Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 19:08, October 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * About the redirect from unaligned to neutral, I'm changing it because of this source I found, where Bruce Cordell says they're not the same. It's a pretty heavy statement, but it appears that in 4th edition there are no characters dedicated to extreme balance as in true neutral. Unaligned characters just don't care. Mpj 16:32, November 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, it's more complicated than that. There are 4th edition "unaligned" characters who do try to maintain an "extreme" balance between good and evil (for example, the nerra in the Monster Manual 3). And there are 3rd edition neutral characters who just don't care (the vast majority of them, in fact). But I agree that 4e's "unaligned" and 3e's "neutral" aren't synonymous. Unaligned includes characters who were considered to be lawful neutral or chaotic neutral in 3e. -- Rowan Earthwood 18:00, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, why do things have to be so confusing in 4th edition? The alignment system was easy to understand and covered a whole range of moral outlooks. Now I'm just confused! I have adapted Alignment to represent the whole alignment system in 4th edition too, but I'm not sure it's right. Can someone advise on this and edit if necessary, please? Fw190a8 (talk &middot; contr) 23:31, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well.. it's not that different. It's just that they do not explain the double axis anymore, and have merged the neutral flavors (neutral good and chaotic good in just Good and neutral evil and lawful evil in just Evil). I have to write the Evil page yet. And I fixed Alignment with the missing ones. Mpj 02:07, November 12, 2010 (UTC)