Talk:Seven Lost Gods

Perhaps this should be split into two articles? The two groups of Seven Lost Gods have nothing to do with each other, and there may be a reason to reference one of them without the potential confusion of seeing the other.Wanderscribe (talk) 23:09, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

We established that there is one group of lost gods. We tied up the loose end that existed. I'm not sure why someone is trying to split the two groups.


 * Merry Christmas. Who is "we" and where is the conversation where this tying up took place?  The two usages of the term "Seven Lost Gods" are very different.  The Westgate Timeline file from the web enhancement for Cloak and Dagger (downloadable from WotC's website; the source is cited) specifically acknowledges that they are different groups of powers.  There are seven actually-gone gods who "bowed to Bane"... five of which are named (Borem, Camnod, Haask, Maram, Tyranthraxus). Then there are seven not-really-lost-at-all gods who were worshiped outside Westgate for a while when temples were banned inside the city (Garagos, Ghaunadaur, Jergal, Moander, Savras, Silvanus).  Without some weird declarations (like "hey, Tyranthraxus was actually Silvanus, rock on") it's not possible for both usages of the term to refer to the same powers. :) Wanderscribe (talk) 03:38, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Split
I propose we start a new article to differentiate between those powers referred to in this article, Kezef and Borem canonically, based on the FRCG and F&P and those who were banned in Westgate. The article for the latter could be Seven Lost Gods (Westgate).

Also if anyone has a working link of the Cloak & Dagger web enhancement I'd love to read that. Ruf (talk) 00:02, August 5, 2018 (UTC)


 * There was no Cloak & Dagger web enhancement that I am aware of, unless it goes by some non-obvious name. Where did you find mention of it? Here is the Web Enhancement Archive. &mdash;Moviesign (talk) 02:46, August 5, 2018 (UTC)


 * Well I don't know what I was referring to with the Cloak & Dagger web enhancement but (4 years later) do maintain this article should be split. It obviously refers to two different and distinct groups of powers/deities. I'm happy to dig through all the sources, parse language, correct links, etc. Ruf (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I think you mean the Westgate Dynasties and Timeline Word documents released basically as web enhancements for Cloak & Dagger. The Westgate Timeline is cited and linked to on the page.


 * I basically rewrote this article, and essentially already split it within the one page. It's an odd, edge case, as it's not really an organization or a pantheon, more a term or title used by sages in-setting who confuse one with the other. The two Sevens here are just the two most distinct sets. I think splitting the page would give the wrong impression, that these are specific groups or that there only two. And it would leave three pages, with one introducing two others and not cracking the three-sentence rule. ~ BadCatMan (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * PS: Here's a link to the C&D web enhancements: . ~ BadCatMan (talk) 15:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)