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For categorization purposes, are plants a subcategory of items? I ask because it doesn't seem to me like the categorization system currently helps me find all the plant species in a given region. Say I want to know all the plants growing in Calimshan, such as the ginyak weed. How do I find that readily?

(And by "plants", I mean flora/vegetation, not plant creatures.)

~ Lhynard (talk) 19:57, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm, I think I have asked this question before... somewhere... "Vegetation from Calimshan"... "Vegetation from the Lands of Intrigue"... just ideas... might be cool actually :)

- Darkwynters (talk) 22:16, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

If they were just items, we could use the category intersections to do that automatically as for roads and settlements. That's partly why I asked the question.

~ Lhynard (talk) 22:28, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

The problem is, where do you draw the line? We don't want to put elm trees in categories "Items from X" where X is every road, village, forest, city, metropolis, mountain range, region, and continent that might have elm trees. Unless the plant in question has a unique source, like it grows only on the beard of the Wailing Dwarf, then I think we might want to limit it to major region (i.e., Category:Items from North Faerûn and the other compass points, Interior Faerûn and the Underdark) and then add other continents as needed.

—Moviesign (talk) 03:37, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. Categorising plants as items is just weird. I see Items as made things, whether crafted, or processed, or gathered by other creatures. Some plants are gathered and processed, so would be items, but some wild plants just aren't. So I'd say that plants that are processed, sold as trade-goods, and used, like ginyak weed would be items, while willows apparently are not. I think I'd prefer to see plants treated similarly to creatures, animals, plant creatures, and so on. Individual articles (whether on geography or a specific plant) can tell you where they're found. Categorising them by location would be a step too far, and by terrain and climate outside the scope of the wiki.

— BadCatMan (talk) 07:11, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

To me plants are more creatures then they are Items... Erm... From what I understand "plants" are totally separate from mushrooms whom are a sorta not plants nor creatures... Maybe vegetation should get there own box (don't want to give people a work load that I cant contribute to myself some how, but its a Idea)? Vegetation would have a "creatures" subsection and all the different kinds of plants or Mushrooms or something... That would also pot Myconid in a "Mushroom" category and a "Creature" category.

Terrorblades 's Far Realm logs dated 08:54, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Well, if you treat plants like creatures, and we categorize creatures by climate and terrain, then we should probably do the same for plants, but I can appreciate your reasons for not doing this. I agree processed plants, herbs, and anything that might be a spell component should probably be an "Item" that is also Plant (Category:Plants) or Fungus (Category:Fungi). Category:Vegetation could be the top-level category for these.

—Moviesign (talk) 15:27, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

I removed the Plant (Category:Plants) since 99% of the articles were about Plant creatures... would you like me to recreate it?

- Darkwynters (talk) 21:14, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

Up you to, oh Master of Categories. :) If you have pages that fit the category, then you might as well use it, or just lump it under Category:Vegetation. Whatever you think best.

—Moviesign (talk) 15:42, April 19, 2015 (UTC)