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− | {{Forum post|The first option is the best... and you can even remove the Notible Inhabitants, since the Inhabitants of the Elfsong Tavern would be the same thing... and add maybe races... since a lot of the building will have no actual innkeeper, but might say [[gnome]]s run the place, like the [[Barrelstone Inn... as for different owners... such as the [[Broken Dagger]] tavern... I guess we could just use |
+ | {{Forum post|The first option is the best... and you can even remove the Notible Inhabitants, since the Inhabitants of the Elfsong Tavern would be the same thing... and add maybe races... since a lot of the building will have no actual innkeeper, but might say [[gnome]]s run the place, like the [[Barrelstone Inn]]... as for different owners... such as the [[Broken Dagger]] tavern... I guess we could just use <br/> and have the dates be in () after the names... any thoughts after looking at these pages? Still I really like what you are doing Cronje... I just hope the admins will be cool with it... I really hate to change everything and then... boom, change it back :)|[[User:Darkwynters|Darkwynters]] 01:22, February 3, 2012 (UTC)}} |
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+ | |I've included the functionality for inhabitants, locations, and organizations and removed the occupants parameter as suggested. As for the owners issue, that parameter need not be specific; [[Gnome]]s is fine, as opposed to [[Nanfoodle]] or something similar. In my opinion, if there were previous owners, one or two can be in the infobox (using <br /> as suggested), but any more than that is unnecessary and should go in a <nowiki>== History ==</nowiki> section. |
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+ | |'''[[User:Cronje|Cronje]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Cronje|talk]] ⋅ [[Special:Contributions/Cronje|contribs]])</sup> 02:49, February 3, 2012 (UTC)}} |
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+ | {{Forum post|Okay... I think I will try this on the [[Broken Dagger]] tavern and see how it looks... Cronje, you have really been working hard on this one :)|[[User:Darkwynters|Darkwynters]] 02:55, February 3, 2012 (UTC)}} |
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+ | |Nice work on this template. It's a good addition to the wiki, I feel. I would like to suggest that it has the same layout as {{tl|Person}} as I would like to see all of the templates eventually acquiring this layout. Perhaps keep the brick red styling though, to distinguish it from other similar infoboxes? |
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+ | I think it's important to have a single look and feel for the infobox templates, although I appreciate it's a lot of work to convert them all over, and we don't have enough of them converted just yet. |
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+ | The {{tl|Person}} template is what I consider to be a step forward in terms of template simplicity and flexibility, so any template in that style will remain easy to edit and easy to change "en masse" if we decide to refresh the look later. |
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+ | I have the ability to alter the stylesheet for the wiki in case extra CSS rules are required to make any templates work. Just let me know here or on my talk page. |
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+ | |[[User:Fw190a8|Fw190a8]] 22:28, February 8, 2012 (UTC) |
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+ | |If I may be so bold, why must we follow the {{tl|Person}} style? It's the only of the infoboxes that uses <div> instead of the wiki table code. Having glanced at a couple of the infobox templates used over at [http://wookiepedia.wikia.com/wiki/ Wookipedia] (as one of the bigger wikis) and Wikipedia, it looks to me like they use the table code instead of <div>. Combine that with the tags like <dt> and >dd> and I'd argue that it's MORE confusing. |
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+ | |'''[[User:Cronje|Cronje]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Cronje|talk]] ⋅ [[Special:Contributions/Cronje|contribs]])</sup> 22:59, February 8, 2012 (UTC)}} |
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+ | |Here's the short answer ;) http://shouldiusetablesforlayout.com/ |
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+ | For the long answer, check out the history of {{tl|Person}} and the code is much cleaner and more concise using the div-based format. |
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+ | Having said that, as long as the infoboxes all look pretty much the same and look nice, whatever gets the job done, really. |
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+ | |[[User:Fw190a8|Fw190a8]] 23:03, February 8, 2012 (UTC) |
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+ | |Oh, I definitely agree that it's cleaner than previous iterations, but I'd argue that it could have been simplified using wiki table code just as easily, which would have kept it standard with our other infoboxes. I assume that external link (which is pretty funny, by the way) is referring to web pages in general. My argument there would be that the Wikia code isn't very clean by itself, so trying to bring our infoboxes up to web standards of quality is pretty pointless. :P |
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+ | |'''[[User:Cronje|Cronje]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Cronje|talk]] ⋅ [[Special:Contributions/Cronje|contribs]])</sup> 23:07, February 8, 2012 (UTC)}} |
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+ | |I see what you're saying. Do you feel like trying a version of the {{tl|Person}} template in wiki table format? Maybe we can try to make a cleaner version that way? |
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+ | |[[User:Fw190a8|Fw190a8]] 23:11, February 8, 2012 (UTC) |
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+ | |Ultimately, I'd like to standardize all of the infobox templates so that they look similar. Right now, some of them have extra code that makes the text smaller or larger, etc.. I'll explain more in a separate forum, since it's outside the scope of this one. See [[Forum:Standardizing infoboxes]]. |
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+ | |'''[[User:Cronje|Cronje]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Cronje|talk]] ⋅ [[Special:Contributions/Cronje|contribs]])</sup> 23:32, February 8, 2012 (UTC)}} |
Latest revision as of 23:32, 8 February 2012
Use the following template for a nicely presented post:
{{Forum post|Write your message here!|~~~~}}
Titles for this proped box include (but are not limited to)
- Name of Building
- Type of building (e.g. tavern, store, house, tower, etc)
- Location
- Owner
- Services provided
- Notable Inhabitants
- Volo's ratings (if applicable for taverns)
anyone else like this idea??
or can you think of more titles we would need?
Really appreciate it.
edit: Are you going to make it look more like the other info boxes?
After that, I'll copy it over to a proper (non-user subpage) template page.
I think it's important to have a single look and feel for the infobox templates, although I appreciate it's a lot of work to convert them all over, and we don't have enough of them converted just yet.
The {{Person}} template is what I consider to be a step forward in terms of template simplicity and flexibility, so any template in that style will remain easy to edit and easy to change "en masse" if we decide to refresh the look later.
I have the ability to alter the stylesheet for the wiki in case extra CSS rules are required to make any templates work. Just let me know here or on my talk page.
For the long answer, check out the history of {{Person}} and the code is much cleaner and more concise using the div-based format.
Having said that, as long as the infoboxes all look pretty much the same and look nice, whatever gets the job done, really.