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Something I've been wanting to do for a long time is make it easier to add linkable family trees to this Wiki. Wikipedia's method is ugly and super complicated, in my opinion, so I made up a system from scratch. It still has its flaws, certainly, but I think it's better than Wikipedia's trees.

Here's a simple example:

Eremoes Hawkwinter

Kyrin Hawkwinter

Genos

unknown

unknown

unknown

Jornos

Kyrin

Geiron

…which comes from:

{{Family tree|size=1em}}
{{Family tree/Row start}}
{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|[[Eremoes|Eremoes<br />Hawkwinter]]}}{{╤}}{{Ftn|[[Kyrin Hawkwinter (matriarch)|Kyrin<br />Hawkwinter]]}}
{{Family tree/Row end}}
{{Family tree/Row start}}
{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}} {{┌}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{┬}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{┬}}  {{─}}  {{┴}}  {{─}}  {{┬}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{┬}}  {{─}}  {{─}}  {{┐}}
{{Family tree/Row end}}
{{Family tree/Row start}}
{{Ftn|[[Genos Hawkwinter|Genos]]}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|unknown}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|unknown}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|unknown}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|[[Jornos Hawkwinter|Jornos]]}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|[[Kyrin Hawkwinter|Kyrin]]}}
{{Family tree/Row end}}
{{Family tree/Row start}}
{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}} {{│}}
{{Family tree/Row end}}
{{Family tree/Row start}}
{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftb}}{{Ftn|[[Geiron Hawkwinter|Geiron]]}}
{{Family tree/Row end}}
{{Family tree/End}}

({{Ftb}} stands for "family tree break" and {{Ftn}} stands for "family tree name". Each name is three cells wide.)

A more complicated example:

Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun

Zelphar Arunsun

Erktos Thann

Cassandra Arunsun Thann

Rhammas Thann

Dartek

Eldaun

Randor

Zelphar

Harmon

Danilo

Arilyn Moonblade

Ideaera

Synthea

Judith

Lilly

Erktos II

These can be compared with the trees I made using Wikipedia, for which I simply copied the source code HTML (blech!):

House Hawkwinter/Family tree

House Thann/Family tree

Any thoughts or feedback are appreciated.

~ Lhynard (talk) 01:24, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

I love these, great work Lhynard! These would be a great edition to Family or House articles. Sometimes just a big list of names like we have currently doesn't convey the organization very well but this is perfect.

--Eli the Tanner (talk) 20:53, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

The lines don't show up using the mobile skin, but I think tables in general give mobile devices trouble. I played around with aligning "Judith" and some lines disappeared when I made that one longer. I didn't investigate why, but I'm guessing some colspan numbers needed adjusting. Do you think this is flexible enough to render most or all of the family trees you want to present? If so, go forth and conquer.

—Moviesign (talk) 02:26, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback.

I have just created documentation at {{Family tree}}. Please let me know if it is clear and helpful or what I can change or add.

Eli, it is already "live".

Movie, yes, mobile doesn't work, but I can't do anything about that really. That's Wikia's problem.

I fixed the alignment for "Judith".

Yes, I think I can render any family tree. I've already made a fairly complicated one for Lions' Dynasty'.

~ Lhynard (talk) 15:59, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

If any one wants to leave requests for family trees to be made, just add a link here:
Family tree requests

~ Lhynard (talk) 20:04, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

I've finished House Baenre/Family tree for now. If anyone has another for me to dom add a link here:
Family tree requests

~ Lhynard (talk) 23:32, March 27, 2016 (UTC)