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Hi everyone,

I have just finished creating a navbox for the {{Great Wheel cosmology}}. I also made an image map using the illustration from the Player's Handbook 5th edition as a base. Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome.

I started this little project with the goal of including the template in the footers of all the relevant planes that are linked by it, but then the question of other cosmologies came across. Because most of these planes exist in multiple cosmologies, should we create a separate navbox for each particular cosmology and then include all at the bottom of each plane?

Since the Great Wheel is the standard cosmology in 5e, it seems reasonable that this navbox be at least the first one to be made, but I'd like to hear people's opinions before adding it to all the other planar pages.

Sirwhiteout (talk) 19:37, June 12, 2018 (UTC)


Well, I think it looks beautiful, and I like imagemaps and navboxes.

On the other hand, I feel like it is obnoxiously large.

As far as other navboxes, I think that every plane should have a navbox for each of the major cosmologies. However, that too would take up far too much space.

My suggestion would be to make the navbox collapsible, so that it could be expanded to show the full imagemap to those who want to see and stay compact for those who don't need to.

~ Lhynard (talk) 03:42, June 13, 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for the suggestion. I have just changed the template to make the image collapsible.

The picture itself still seems a little too big, though. I will try to make it smaller and see if it looks better (without making the detail so small that it feels like the reader has to snipe the right pixel in order to reach it).

Sirwhiteout (talk) 16:02, June 13, 2018 (UTC)


I don't think that we want to make the image much smaller; as it is, it is already hard to read the labels.

One way to reduce the size is also to use horizontal labels: Transitive Planes: Astral PlaneEthereal plane …instead of : Transitive Planes
Astral PlaneEthereal plane

I do this on occasion to keep the navboxes from growing too large. See, for example:

Baatezu

Least: LemureNupperiboSpinagon
Lesser: Abishai (BlackBlueGreenRedWhite)BarbazuErinyesExcruciarchGhargatulaHamatula (Stony devil)KocrachonMerregonOsyluthWar devilXerfilstyx
Greater: AmnizuCornugonGelugonLogokronNarzugonOrthonPaeliryonPit fiend
Baatezu of unknown rank: AdvespaDogaiGulthirJerul

Miscellaneous Devils
AratonBurning devilFimbrul devilHellcatHellwaspImp (BloodbagBookEuphoricFilth)KalabonKytonMisfortune devilSeared devilShocktroop devilSoulrider devilStitched devilSuccubusTar devilVizier devil


I wonder if we should have a single cosmology navbox with three headings, each collapsible—Great Wheel, World Tree, and World Axis. The links of all three would be hidden until expanded, and all could have an image map.

~ Lhynard (talk) 18:05, June 13, 2018 (UTC)


Ok, here is the new template:



I had to change the code a little bit in the existing World Axis cosmology/imagemap and World Tree cosmology/imagemap, namely removing the frame or thumb parameters in the image call sequence and setting desc none as one of the imagemap parameters, otherwise it would render the image in a weird position or with an inappropriate size. This may change the way these pictures are displayed in their respective pages, but if these very same pictures appear in the navbox, then it might be redundant anyway.

Thoughts? If this meets general approval, I can go ahead and put it in the respective planar pages.

Sirwhiteout (talk) 01:30, June 14, 2018 (UTC)


Excellent work!
Moviesign (talk) 01:43, June 14, 2018 (UTC)


I love it!
~ Lhynard (talk) 04:25, June 14, 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for the feedback! I am now in the process of adding the navbox to the pages.

Lhynard, your comment almost made me spill my coffee. Well played, sir, well played. :)

Which reminds me: para-elemental and quasi-elemental planes have no pages of their own. Maybe some of them do deserve it. The Quasi-Elemental Plane of Radiance has a very important presence in the skies of Toril.

Sirwhiteout (talk) 14:04, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
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