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Besides doing the occasional edit here, I am also active at Memory Alpha (MA), the Star Trek wiki. And I've noticed something they came up with – a point of view policy.

It's actually pretty simple – all articles (baring some exceptions detailed below) are to be written as if they were actually in existence, rather than stuff of fiction.

And so, you can think of the wiki as an actual library or collection of data existing in the setting. MA derrives its name from the Memory Alpha asteroid, which is the largest database/library in the Star Trek universe. FR Wiki could be compared to... well... Candlekeep. :) (What a shame that's already taken...)

In FR terms the above rule would mean that instead of writing something like:

In the Forgotten Realms setting, Elminster is a powerful wizard and a Chosen of Mystra. He has been invented by Ed Greenwood and is the protagonist of a number of novels.

we would have:

Elminster Aumar is a powerful wizard and a Chosen of Mystra, who lives in Shadowdale. He has lived through many adventures, among which are...

Now, obviously both on MA as well as on this wiki there are groups of articles which simply have to be written from a different POV – a real-world point of view – simply because they relate to the real world, rather than a fictional one. Those are marked with a special template so as to avoid confusion (e.g. Gene Roddenberry - note the upper right-hand corner).

On this wiki those would be articles about subjects like game supplements, novels and authors.

Now... I haven't really given this much thought in relation to FR Wiki, I just see it works nicely on MA, giving it a feeling of being more submerged in the setting it describes. Therefore I would like to discuss introducing something similar here.

What do you guys think of the idea?

TOR 20:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

This is more or less an unwritten rule here. Most articles are written as though they are real, although as you point out, this is not suitable for articles describing topics like authors or books. There are some more borderline cases, such as the articles on alignment. Would a character necessarily think about what alignment they are, or is it more subconscious? Do I think about my own alignment when I drop a piece of gum on the street? Probably not.

Personally I'd welcome discussion for individual articles on which it is not clear whether to write in or out of character, but for the most part, I feel it's self-explanatory and comes naturally to most editors.

Fw190a8 01:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I would think adopting this idea would increase the amount of work needed to write the articles. Currently I just paraphrase what I find in the sourcebooks. I would also be concerned about opinion slipping into the writing, as adverbs and adjectives are used within the writing.
Wenin 21:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Wenin that quite often the source material does contain emotive language, but if paraphrasing, this should be removed to create a completely NPOV article. I'm sure that the NPOV will fall into place eventually, as articles get edited more and more!
Fw190a8 22:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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