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I'm probably not the first person to ask this question but I'll ask anyway since an answer was not forth comming in a wide google search.

When Karsus broke the weave, mystra set limits on spell-casting. The question then is Did shar also? It dosen't seem likly since the users of the shadow weave are either sharrans or have lost a peice of their mind. Anyone have any imput?

unsigned comment by JooFish on 18:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not a subject-matter expert on the Shadow Weave, but didn't Shar create it much after Karsus existed? So I don't think the question "Was the shadow weave broken by Karsus?" applies, or rather the answer is "no". As to whether or not Shar created her weave with the same limits, or whether she was even capable of doing so, that's up to speculation I believe. And at this point perhaps a moot point with the advent of 4E. Though it would be a good topic on the Discussion page for the Shadow Weave.
SkyeNiTessine 18:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
According to page 57 of the FR Campaign Setting, the Shadow Weave is millennia old. However, the Magic of Faerun book says Shar is still a novice in terms of controlling her Shadow Weave, which suggests a much more recent invention of the aforementioned source of magic. I don't recall ever seeing any dates for the creation of the Shadow Weave, but I suspect Karsus would have had little to no impact, had the Shadow Weave existed.

I haven't seen anything suggesting the Shadow Weave possessing 10th, 11th, or 12th level spells. I'd assume that Lord Ao might have forced Shar to place similar limits (or perhaps she lacks the potential Ao-like strength Mystra would have had she not tied her powers up in her Chosen). Of course, there are always unique circumstances. I've heard Mystra grants Larloch access to spells above and beyond 9th level, so one never knows if there is a Larloch-like Shadow Weave mega-mage out there.

Gabeth 20:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
According to Magic of Faerûn, p.10, the Shadow Weave persists even if Mystra were to die, although this has been a hotly disputed topic and apparently there are those who do not take this as canon. Whether this means that it persisted in the particular event instigated by Karsus I do not know. I don't ever remember reading anything about it. There is a bit on the topic in the thread below (had to put it outside the template to avoid breaking it) but it's a pretty sizeable thread.
Fw190a8 07:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of which, is there a way to fix the "forum post" template to be able to include SUBST as well as external links. My normal sig doesn't work in this template :-(
SkyeNiTessine 06:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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