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| − | I'd suggest adding a 'realmslore' category, as a final catch all category. For every person, place or thing there is often miscellaneous information that does not quite fit into any category. Adding the verbal component of a spell, for example, does not really fit in 'history' or 'rumors' or even 'effect'. The same way saying ''the Broken Mug is a popular dwarf tavern'' is not exactly a 'rumor' or 'history' or 'description'.([[User:Bloodtide|Bloodtide]] ([[User talk:Bloodtide|talk]]) 03:55, December 10, 2012 (UTC)) |
+ | {{Forum post|I'd suggest adding a 'realmslore' category, as a final catch all category. For every person, place or thing there is often miscellaneous information that does not quite fit into any category. Adding the verbal component of a spell, for example, does not really fit in 'history' or 'rumors' or even 'effect'. The same way saying ''the Broken Mug is a popular dwarf tavern'' is not exactly a 'rumor' or 'history' or 'description'.|([[User:Bloodtide|Bloodtide]] ([[User talk:Bloodtide|talk]]) 03:55, December 10, 2012 (UTC))}} |
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| + | {{Forum post|Yes, an Appendix is generally for things outside the main article. As an article has an in-universe perspective, the Appendix, I feel, should have those things that are real world–related: See Also/Connections, Notes/Discrepancies, Appearances, References, External Links. The Appendix separates the in-universe and real-world parts of the article. It's something I've seen done in other well-developed wikis (or at least, Memory Beta). I've only done it on articles with more than one of those sections I listed though. For example, [[Ylraphon]]. |
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| + | "Powers": "Abilities" might be more appropriate, especially for combat-focused characters. |
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| + | But then, these are more guidelines than strictures, aren't they? So a few solid examples of section headings that should be used will work well. |
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| + | "Realmslore", I think, would suggest that the rest of the article isn't actually Realms lore. That may suit a core D&D thing, but it seems unnecessary to me, when everything can be framed in terms of being within the Realms. The components of a spell can just go under "Components", as at ''[[cone of cold]]'' (ah, sorry Bloodtide, you wrote that originally before I changed it). I think "is a popular dwarf tavern" can easily go under Description, Inhabitants, or even the introductory line. |
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There are already some guidelines at, for example, Help:Writing an article about a book, or Help:Writing an article about a person, but these are quite dated.
I'm interested, therefore, to find out what people think about modernizing these and sticking by them, so each article takes on a more familiar order. We could also use some "example" articles so new editors can see how they ought to be constructed.
I am not proposing each article must have exactly the same headings with no deviation, as this is not appropriate for all articles, and some articles won't have the sections others do, but I am proposing a more definite guideline on the matter.
Thoughts?
Improved formatting
Person
- Physical description
- Personality
- History
- Abilities (or special powers)
- Equipment
- Allies (or associates) / Relationships, instead
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Buildings
- Geography
- History
- Structure
- Interior
- Inhabitants
- Defenses
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Locations
- Geography (or geographic location or area)
- History
- Inhabitants
- Government
- Trade
- Defenses
- Geographical features (listing)
- Notable locations (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Items
- Physical description
- History
- Powers
- Notable "owners" or similar items (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Creatures
- Physical description
- Personality (or Behavior)
- History
- Combat
- Ecology / Habitat perhaps
- Notable "creatures" (specific creatures or characters) (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Organizations
- Personality (or something to do with their actions or typical behavior or maybe just Organization)
- History
- Enemies (or Relationships, which sounds more encompassing)
- Specialized equipment
- Tactics
- Members (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
With FW's suggestion I have moved the History section... actually, the history section could be even further down (Maybe before the listing sections, such as notable locations or Members), but I placed it after the initial description of the subject of the page... mainly, I am interested in streamlining the appearance and consistency of the wiki pages... plus, if this is made policy, it will be something to show new members how to create and organize their new pages... any thoughts :)
I've bookmarked this thread for future reference, it will be good to have a general consensus on style like this.
- 'Physical description' may be redundant, 'Description' seems to be work just fine.
- 'Relationships' is broad enough to cover all possibilities of allies, enemies, or just dealings.
I've liked 'Activities' to cover the general actions, projects or deeds of a person or group.
I've found that Rumors and/or Legends works rather well to cover rumors, legends, tales, unconfirmed information, and plot hooks that don't rightly go in other sections.
Another useful section is Appendix, to contain all the out-of-universe sections like Notes, Appearances and References.
Improved formatting
Person
- Description
- Personality
- Powers
- Equipment
- Activities
- Relationships
- History
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Buildings
- Geography
- Structure
- Interior
- Defenses
- History
- Rumors
- Inhabitants
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Locations
- Geography
- Geographical features (listing) - Subcat
- Government
- Trade
- Defenses
- History
- Rumors
- Notable locations (listing)
- Inhabitants
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Items
- Description
- Powers
- History
- Notable "owners" or similar items (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Spells
- Description
- Powers or Effects
- Components
- History
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Creatures
- Description
- Personality (or Behavior) - Behavior might make more sense
- Combat
- Ecology - Society is sort of a subcat
- History
- Notable "creatures" (specific creatures or characters) (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
Organizations
- Activities
- Tactics
- Specialized equipment
- Relationships
- History
- Members (listing)
- Appearances - Novels / video games, etc.
- Notes or discrepancies
- Gallery
- References
"Notes" is more catch-all than "Discrepancies".
"Powers": "Abilities" might be more appropriate, especially for combat-focused characters.
"Equipment": Perhaps "Possessions", which can include pets, vehicles, property and valuables?
But then, these are more guidelines than strictures, aren't they? So a few solid examples of section headings that should be used will work well.
"Realmslore", I think, would suggest that the rest of the article isn't actually Realms lore. That may suit a core D&D thing, but it seems unnecessary to me, when everything can be framed in terms of being within the Realms. The components of a spell can just go under "Components", as at cone of cold (ah, sorry Bloodtide, you wrote that originally before I changed it). I think "is a popular dwarf tavern" can easily go under Description, Inhabitants, or even the introductory line.