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Well met all. Since I've done it elsewhere, I'll take the opportunity to talk about the state of the Forgotten Realms Wiki right now. In short, I think it's doing pretty good. :)

The Wikia Activity Monitor shows our statistics are looking pretty good. It has a score of 94.77/100, is ranked 235 out of Wikia's top 5000 wikis, and 107 out of its Video Game category (a bit odd, but we're in Tabletop Games, which is in the Wikia Gaming hub, which is in the Video Games hub). That's up, up, and up from when I last reported these in May last year. Equally, the Quick Stats (on the Admin Dashboard) show an average of ~65,280 views a day this last week, up from ~59,900 views a day last year. So, across the board, we've maintained and slightly improved our quality and popularity, and certainly consolidated our wiki.

Plus, the current Versus Tournament may not be much, but I like to think it shows our high place among the Wikia wikis and makes us a part of the wider community.

Currently, we have 13,834 articles. Our Main Page is regularly updated, with a Feature Article every month and more on the way at a faster schedule, a weekly Did You Know? to present Realmslore from our latest articles, and a daily Today in the Realms to present history, rituals, and festivals, and frequent pictures of the day. So, the main page is worth visiting regularly.

From my random tours, and watching those of others, I'd estimate most of the old unsourced material has been tagged; almost all the copied material has been deleted, tagged, is being rewritten or otherwise known about (certainly very little turns up now); and the homebrew material has been almost entirely removed, putting the problems of the past well behind us. Pages are also being thoroughly categorised by Darkwynters and the one who shall not be named. ;) The new portal work by Niirfa-sa also keeps things organised and accessible. So I'm confident to say the FRW is now a reliable source for a wide range of Realms topics, and very useful and detailed for a handful of specific topics (those that our editors are interested in, at least).

Once again, I've posted stuff about the wiki at the Wizards Community and Candlekeep forums. This should again keep or put the FRW in fans' minds, maybe garner a few new editors, as well as canvas attitudes and opinions of users.

With 5th Edition coming out, and the lore already coming onto the wiki, it's a good time to reconnect with the fandom. We might see another surge of activity as new fans throw in 5e content. At this point, we should be on guard against a new influx of homebrew and copied material. But I think this time we will be ready. (Though personally I know stuff-all about 5e.)

Which gets us to problems.

I've noticed that the FRW regularly attracts new editors. But they go hard for a few weeks, output a flurry of new articles and content, more than I can keep up with, and then quickly fade away. Do they decide wiki editing isn't for them after all, is it burnout, or something else? It's sad that we can't seem to keep many editors. Our regulars are the regulars of the last few years, plus a few newbies. This is a problem, I feel, as we're not keeping editors who could go on to be experienced editors, who could replace us, help clean up and maintain the wiki, or write their own feature-worthy articles. How can we keep them? Should we give more updated help and advice, guide them more as they start, try to reconnect when they stop? The best advice might be not to make so many articles.

And there is still the old chore of cleaning up the old pages, using past tense and a uniform style, improving the language of old articles, just to be nice, consistent, and readable. There are plagiarized articles to rewrite, not to mention those still in Category:Years. There are articles to be referenced, and images to be sourced, categorised, and used.

TBH, it is hard to balance the need to do a lot of tedious clean-up against your desire to write articles about things you're interested in. Hobbies should be fun. But we soldier on. |— BadCatMan (talk) 06:54, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yay :D! Its great that things are growing! I want say as some one whom is on and off from time to time, for me its mostly that I get stuck with different things. Not to sound like a excuse but its mostly falling for a new game and just staying on it, and not on the TFR games that I have on a list to play :S! In a way it feels like I leaving half built things around, like para-genasi pages and the demon pages that I feel like I have to do, and I actually really want to do... I need to put my self on the spot to do these pages... Also I think... we need another GolemBot, but for the Wizards web pages to get them to the Archive :(... Isn't there like a "need to be done page" somewhere, think I have seen it somewhere? Any one know any thing about it?

Terrorblades 's Far Realm logs dated 08:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Excellent... well done and well said, High admin!!!

- Darkwynters (talk) 03:02, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

I concur :) I re-read last year's post and all the responses you was good to see so many people took the time to reply. I'm somewhat disappointed that we didn't get much response this time around. Oh well, we know by the page hits that people are using the wiki.

Terrorblades: Near the bottom of the Main Page is a list of "Things to do", if you are so inclined :)

Moviesign (talk) 04:52, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

We have two bots, doing what their owners need. I wouldn't say we need another bot, but instead welcome another user to run their own bot as they need. Darkwynters, you might like one for category work. Otherwise, a user with an idea of what can be better done with a bot should give the details to a bot owner: what to look for on a page or categories to search; and what text needs to be removed, replaced, and added. I haven't yet looked to see if there's an easy fix for the dead-links.

I keep checking and hoping for more responses. Both forums are pretty slow-moving, so I'm not disappointed.

I am disappointed that the page views dropped after the contest and the forum posts. Maybe I shouldn't put too much stock in them. After all, the most visited pages are all the usual suspects: Drizzt, Elminster, Mystra, Spellplague, Sundering, etc. Popular and controversial. I expect people look them up on Google, the FRW is the first or second hit, and they check the page. Then they they either move on or read some more pages. I wish I could know how many views the most visited pages get, out of the total views.

In any case, polishing up the most visited pages would be of most benefit to the wiki: giving us a good image, being of most use to readers, and attracting more editors. Unfortunately, these are all long pages, on very detailed or wide-ranging topics, and featured in lots of novels, making improving them very difficult. Getting these to high quality would be major projects that outweigh any of our current featured articles, and I expect not really within our current editors' interests. Should everyone grab a Drizzt novel and get to work? :)

As I've said before, it's a sad fact of a wiki that the most important topics are usually the least well covered. C'est la wiki.

— BadCatMan (talk) 10:02, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

We got a ton of new articles this week, it's very impressive. It looks like the above efforts picked up some new editors.

But please make accounts and log in so we know who you are and can talk to you! I also advise our prolific new editors to take it easy: make one article at a time, wait for us to catch it, see how it's received and tweaked by other editors, learn for the next one, and for the love of Mystra don't get burned out.

— BadCatMan (talk) 12:35, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed! Yes, CREATE an account and take your time :) PLLLEEESSEEE!

- Darkwynters (talk) 16:33, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
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