Talk: Imaskar

Old Wikipedia data

• Because it would too much work for me alone;
• Because I worked so much on the Wikipedia entries;
• Because I believe my intense researches are still of use (especially the labourously collected external links);
• Because I do not know enough of the forgottenrealms Wikia lore to dare or wish to intervene directly anymore,

I just paste in the permalink of what I believe to be most exhaustive Wikipedia entry on the topic:

Most complete permalink for Imaskar

(starting point: Geographical index of Toril on 18th of March 2007)

Could some kind soul take care of extracting the data somewhere it would not be deleted again because of “lack of notability”? Note that a lot of content may be duplicate and also has to be rewritten. Some link shouls also be checked (think archive.org] if nothing else), Wizards of the Coast not being that serious with permanency of data.

David Latapie (✒ | @) 12:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Candlekeep Article

Hey, I found this.

http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/imaskar.htm

I think I've been able to track down and include all the things he brought up, except for two. I haven't been able to find how the Imaskari army was organized, and there's barely anything to sift regarding Thayd himself, after whom Thay is named. I'll try and get his sourcebook info, but after that, I'm out of ideas for what else's left for me to look at.

Anyone got ideas on what else I could grind down for Imaskar data?

Give me a list of the sources you currently have, and I can generate a list of sources you may want to look into. I have a searchable library of virtually every Forgotten Realms source. Ir'revrykal (talk) 17:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I've got, and I've full read: The Grand History of the Realms, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, FRA1 Storm Riders, FRA2 Black Courser, FRA3 Blood Charge, Lost Empires of Faerûn, Monsters of Faerûn, Oriental Adventures 3e, Savage Species, Secrets of Imaskar Web Enhancement, The Horde Boxed Set, Unapproachable East, Underdark, Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, Realms of the Arcane

I've skimmed: Ruins of Myth Drannor Boxed Set, The Fall of Myth Drannor, FR10 Old Empires, Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, Faiths and Avatars TSR 9156, Races of Faerûn, Magic of Faerûn.

I can find issues of Dragon Magazine online, or other books, but it takes forever.

Stabbier (talk) 18:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Alright, here's a handful of sources you may want to look into:

• Secrets of Imaskar, a web enhancement for Lost Empires of Faerûn.
• "Gond's Way: Artificers of the Realms" in Dragon #403 has some information on Imaskari artificers.
• Dragon #349 has a few details on the Imaskari army. The web supplement for this issue also has a handful of details.
• The novel Darkvision is fairly Imaskar-centric, and tells of how they summoned Pandorym.
• Imaskar is mentioned in the novels The Captive Flame, Whisper of Venom, and The Spectral Blaze, all from the Brotherhood of the Griffon series.
• The novel Lady of Poison has a brief mention of the lost wizards of Imaskar.
• Sword of the Gods features an Imaskari damos, albeit very briefly.
• As does the novel Key of Stars, though it seems to mainly be repeating the basic 4e lore for High Imaskar.
• "Realmslore: Sarifal" in Dragon #376 notes how the Imaskari enslaved beings from other worlds and allied themselves with leShay.

There's a handful more minor mentions if you are interested (some inconsequential, some in the vein of random Imaskari nicknacks serving as dungeon dressing, that sort of thing). Anyway, hopefully this helps you find more information. Ir'revrykal (talk) 21:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I've checked some of them. The web enhancement I've already sifted for all it's worth. The missing novels will take some time to gather, but the magazines seemed useful- 349 in particular. Most of that artificer information in magazines is more about High Imaskar and Eberron-style artificers than about Ancient Imaskar, and it's very thin. Still, 349 shows me one actual surviving artificer, that's very useful. I'm iffy on whether this is indicative of Imaskar's army, but according to the magazine, those Tuigan armies are modeled after Imaskari ones. Gonna go and see what I can make of this. In the meantime, can you tell me about these minor mentions, with random Imaskari nicknacks serving as window dressing? Stabbier (talk) 00:27, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Sure.

• Monster Manual III, specifically the entry on shadesteel golems.
• Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage (p. 105): a dragonchess set made by an Imaskari emperor.
• Secrets of the Magister has a brief mention of suspected Imaskari (p. 43), and also mentions Imaskar in relation to mantles (p. 92) and portal networks (p. 127).
• The Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide mentions modern-type Imaskari.
• Serpent Kingdoms (p. 187) lists the lifespan of the Imaskari Empire as -3600 DR to -2448 DR.
• Elder Evils mentions the events of Darkvision in relation to Pandorym (p. 82). There is an alternate history for Zargon involving the Imaskari, too, but I believe this to be so-called adapted canon and so shouldn't be covered here.
• "The Book Dragon" in Realms of the Dragons II mentions how the magical tome known as the Scalamagdrion is a suspected Imaskari invention.
• The web enhancement "Underdark Dungeons" for Underdark mentions an ancient prophecy that may be related to the Deep Imaskari (or not).
• According to Sea of Fallen stars (p. 64), Imaskari were suspected of being involved in the creation of locathah, morkoth, or kuo-toa.
• Powers & Pantheons (p. 76) mentions how Velsharoon wields the Skull Staff of the Necromancer, which was originally crafted by an Imaskari archmage.
• A very brief mention in Final Gate: Selydra first traveled to Lorosfyr in search of Imaskari artifacts.
• Beyond the High Road mentions an Imaskari Book of War.
• Calimport (p. 59): the wizard Kaatos is a collector of Imaskari artifacts.
• Dragons of Faerûn (p. 74) mentions rumors of an ancient Imaskari scepter. Nartheling has an Imaskari magical circlet in his hoard (p. 27).
• The web article "Binders" mentions binders were not uncommon in ancient Imaskar.
• Similarly, the web article "Hexblades and Ninjas" tells of Imaskari hexblades.
• Another web article tells of a nameless Outer Plane that may contain Imaskari artifacts.
• Sentinelspire: from what I can gather, the titular fortress was built by the ancient Imaskari.

That's all of what I could find in terms of substantial mentions; the remainder of the hits mostly concern the Mulan uprising with no real details on the Imaskari. Ir'revrykal (talk) 09:55, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'll see what can be dug up. Stabbier (talk) 15:00, 21 June 2021 (UTC)